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Comments about motorist vs litterThere are 52 comments about "motorist vs litter"
jeeff: today during the 10 minute walk home from the grocery store i counted tim hortons cups that i saw on the ground. i saw 13. there is no tim hortons in the neighbourhood....... jeeff: i wonder if they'll incorporate littering motorists somehow...... mtb4ever: I've read through many of these postings and am astounded at some of your comments. On the subject of what started the whole thing - littering. Mad Max actually said, "So he littred big...... Litter did I Know: If any Driver/person/biker throws litter on the ground/ out their window into to my path, I am always ready to regift it to them. I don't need to throw it at them but if they...... Vancouver Cyclist: Any chance of the Morotorist and the Cyclist getting together with Hool to shoot some pictures and talking this out?
Let's assume that both are sorry for their actions.
And that we all agree that littering is...... We don't have these problems in Vancouver: Kudos to the motorist...Who does this woman think she is? Mother Earth's right hand lady. Honestly, if she had a problem with the litter, why not throw it in the trash. Its...... - - -: The cyclist had a lot of guts to stand up to the motorist when he littered, and the fact that he threw it back at her was just plain wrong. This whole issue could have...... Eric the Yellow-bellied: Eric: "I'm a cyclist and a motorist, so maybe I have a unique prospective..."
WhatEVER. Many of us who are primarily cyclists also have cars -- I'll lay odds you're a motorist who owns a bike....... Eric: I'm a cyclist and a motorist, so maybe I have a unique prospective...I would never litter, but IF I DID, and this self righteous tree hugger threw it back in my car, I would have...... pedestrian pal: Rather than go on and on about cyclist versus motorist lets consider this. People who litter are pigs, people who seek out confrontations like this are fools or worse yet, holier than thou. ...... Dan: I can't believe I read this far...
Because of the notoriety of this blog entry, its not surprising to see so many trolls coming here. I have to believe that a lot of the angry people...... Dan: That motorist should be charged with littering, fined and made to do public service like pick up the litter that "back side orifaces" like him throw on public areas. I have done the same thing...... babs: I've had two days worth of blog comments to read. What I've noticed is that there seems to be two camps of opinions. One belonging to the cyclists and one to the motorists. I...... JimboToronto: I live on Augusta Ave about a block north of where this occurred but missed it due to being out of town. I am neither a bike courier nor a motorist, but my sympathies lie...... Kathie from Burlington: When that motorist decided to litter on the street he littered on our world, our space. When she threw the garbage back into his car, she was littering only his personal space. What...... Chapter Cycles: Having read through all previous comments (there will no doubt be a few more) as well as all versions of the event, I am decidedly sympathetic towards the driver. I am both an avid road...... I heart kensington: Bike Couriers are some of the most vile, foul mouthed people in the city. I used to walk past them at their hangout on Temperence st. while they pounded back beers and chain-smoked weed (and...... White vest girl it's time to say sorry.: The white vest girl speaks:
And I quote her from her posted reply way back in this mess.
The "Motorists": 31st Jan 2006 - 22:26 GMT
To All The Readers,
"This is the blonde girl in the last picture....... What's Really Going On Here: It's interesting that this is primarily a concerned citizen vs. a s***head matter, not a cyclist vs motorist issue. The reason why it has exploded as the latter is due to the decades of...... foodfight: It's the litterbug attacking the cyclist, kicking her bike and bringing her down to the ground. Not exactly a pacifist response. He obviously popped a major valve. Litterbug would have shown more self-control if the...... so right about some drivers: To the person who wrote:
"the most entitled drivers (excluding cabbies and anything oversized) are luxury sedan drivers. It is no surprise that motorist was driving an Acura."
So right!! When I'm waiting to cross the street...... I can't believe what I read!: while some people are really articulate individuals with a sense of humor and enough intelligence to make me wonder... WTF are they doing defending a guy that contravened a municipal by-law, assaulted a PERSON, and...... Unbelievable: Both parties in this are definitely ego-monsters. I agree with the above poster(Sault Ste. Marie) and many others. The courier should have taken down the plate number and reported the motorist, and picked up the...... Forkmiester: Ya know, having been a cyclist and a motorist in tarrana, i do understand his fustrations and hers. But when you look at the situation:
- he litters by throwing out garbage from his window. Arse....... Sault Ste. Marie Guy: I came to this webb site to satisfy my curiosity. The story was broadcasted on CBC radio 1. I believe both parties are douche bags.
First for the courier to throwing the burger at the...... RCH: Toronto motorists are allowed to pollute the air with impunity. Isn't it a bit inconsistent to expect better behaviour with regard to litter? ;}... Joey: I thought this was 2006? What's with all the chauvinistic women haters on here? Let me clarify a few things here that some of you seem to be forgetting (which I know firsthand)
1. Alex threw...... taylor192: Concerning the comment: Argent47: 27th Jan 2006 - 21:01 GMT
Somehow throwing litter on public property is just littering, throwing it on private property is destruction of private property. If you throw your cigarette out, expect...... Both sides: I have read/heard both side of the story. Unfortunately, the "motorist's" side was stated by his fiancé and not by him, as the actual participant. Both sides are plausible but I am still...... NO ONE DESERVES TO GET BEATEN: It's disappointing to read and see what transpired between Leah and the motorist, involving, and endangering the lives of themselves and those around them. It is even more disappointing to read the comments here endorsing...... dude had a baseball bat!: Strange how everyone defending motorist asshole keeps neglecting the fact that he went after the photographer with a baseball bat.
As I read your lame excuses for his behaviour I see no explantions for why...... poprad99: I have been riding bikes for 32 years and burning fossil fuels for 22 years.
I have been commuting year-round by bike for 9 years. I was assaulted and battered by a motorist in 1990 for...... To 'She Had in coming', 'The Motorists' and Everyone else.: It's too late to defend this very very dumb individual. Why is it everyone who claims to know him personally writes the exact same way? So "Brother in Law" are the kind of...... Alfred: The Motorist should spend at least a couple of months for littering. Toronto is our city, not the living room, washroom or garage of the motorist. He MUST learn once and for all to keep...... Provoking: Wow, the name calling. I've never read so much trash - towards both of these individuals. Hey, let's see some more compassion here. Without it, we're all likely to have our faces plastered publically...... Jason H : I've done the same thing as Leah before - kind of. I've never opened a car door, but I've absolutely given litterbugs' garbage back to them - and I'll do it again.
I wouldn't open...... vince: In LEGAL terms, the motorist may be charged for littering, but ultimately, the courier girl is at fault for vandalising his car. Although some of you may want the man to go to jail, that's...... Kevin: HEY FAT ASS!-What do you mean you're not a motorist, what do you do walk everywhere or hitchhike? This asshole would not have had his litter throw back at him, if he had thrown it...... Sleepless in Toronto: Hello all you Neanderthals out there wherever you are...you mini-van driving morons...you litter buggers...you monster home mavens...you enviornmental mental cases...you dyslexic idiots who can't even spell your hate-spewing messages properly...the 'fairer sex' no longer has...... AAA: Sure the "Fat ass" person above has no civic sense like the motorist. These folks are the ones that litter streets, sidewalks, subway cars and other public spaces. The motorist should have been...... AAA: Sure the "Fat ass" person above has no civic sense like the motorist. These folks are the ones that litter streets, sidewalks, subway cars and other public spaces. The motorist should have been...... Fat ass: Wow. Go motorist.
I'm not a motorist, but that cunt of a cyclist was out-of-line. She invaded his car over a fucking piece of litter in TORONTO of all places. Boo fucking hoo.
She deserved...... Teri: People who litter are pigs. Woman with white vest can do better. Hope woman on bike is recovered. Hope the City provides more trash receptacles. Hope motorists mother is embarassed.... Evil Doers: That motorist should pick on someone his own size, of course he is probably too much of a pussy to attack a full sized man. Chickenshit! Stop littering my neighborhood.... Ildiko - Toronto: The motorist was obviously embarrassed for getting caught littering - what an idiot he it. He should litter and mess up his own car not more litter on the streets - speaking of litter -...... Ildiko - Toronto: The motorist was obviously embarrassed for getting caught littering - what an idiot he it. He should litter and mess up his own car not more litter on the streets - speaking of litter -...... JRM: I myself have wanted to kill a few bike couriers in my day as the majority of them feel they own the road because they schlep it out on them everyday which gives them the...... anon (cosh-cache-1.server.ntli.net): Couldn't she have just had a go at the guy? It's not like he dumped trash *on* her.
I'm not saying he was right to litter, pour coffee on her or try and assault her......... dd: I agree that the motorist is a bastard who deserves to be hung.
Leah deserves a sound spanking, and a fine though.
Anyone who, in her situation, cries "victim"(not that she necessarily is, but many people...... Scunny: Back in the day (25 years ago), when I first started as a bike courier, I too was guilty of returning litter to motorized slobs in much the same manner (although I never actually had...... Jeremy: I'm on the courier's side until she elevates to vandalism.
Yes, the motorist was wrong to litter, and I might have done the same as the courier. No, he shouldn't have dumped his coffee on her....... hool: i did not see the beginning of this, but the report goes as follows:
motorist throws food out of window. courier, disliking littering, picks up food and throws food back in car. motorist dumps......
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