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Netherne Mental Asylum

- Simon Cornwell - Saturday, June 24th, 2006 : goo

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Trying to navigate around the former Netherne Mental Asylum is quite difficult. The new roads twist, turn and abruptly end leaving the bemused, and increasingly frustrated, car driver to the whim of illogical road planning. However it allowed us to visit Admin (now restored as flats for sale, superb foundation stone), the Water Tower (clad with scaffolding and a bit of a white elephant) and The Chapel (now a swimming pool).

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Testament to the bizarre road layout, whilst attempting to go north, we ended up at the eastern point of the site, and admired the Main Hall. The doors were open. Why not?

The site supervisor was inside and allowed us to look around, but forbade any photographs. The hall was one the best I’d seen with its intricate stained glass, exposed wooden ceiling and large stage. G T Hine was obviously allowed a little more money than usual for the building of Netherne; the asylum’s opening date was even immortalised in stained glass at the back of the hall: 1907.

Unfortunately the site supervisor hadn’t heard of the cemetery.

After reversing down "Hine Road" we called into Gleeson’s site office. The cemetery was now second from our minds, as some directions off this confounding road network would be nice. They couldn’t be more helpful. Not only were we furnished with directions, we were shown pictures of the hospital’s construction, the laying out the foundation stone (one of the gentlemen in the picture being Hine) and we talked asylums. They told stories of previous jobs at Warlingham and Long Grove (the later being rather spooky and workmen disliked working in many parts of the old buildings).

They’d never heard of the cemetery but were able to direct us out of the housing estate.

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We finally found the original road to the north of the site and quickly located the graveyard. The broken sign lead into a forgotten bramble choked field surrounded by tall unkempt trees. A collection of gravestones were laid in a concrete slab by the entrance.

To all intents and purposes, the graveyard at Netherne was truly forgotten. And despite the loss of its parent asylum, the gradual transmutation of Netherne Asylum into Netherne On The Hill, the cemetery would endure.

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joey: 24th Jun 2006 - 22:33 GMT

looks more like a 'long' forgotten bramble choked field, until you took these photos. now it is never to be forgotten. nice work. do the trees not bloom in this locale? after all it is summertime.

jack: 25th Jun 2006 - 04:22 GMT

i once was lost in a mental asylum and drifted from room to room. i spoke with abe lincoln and rudy valentino, it was by far the most craziest place i've ever been to and the women walk around with hospital gown on and no undies and they dont cover up.

Simon Cornwell: 28th Jun 2006 - 12:51 GMT

These pictures were taken in January hence the sheer bleakness of everything. Even in the midst of winter, the field was choked with brambles and nettles, so who knows if there's more under the undergrowth.

paige: 13th Jan 2007 - 16:31 GMT

i live in netherne and have beenin the grave yard a few times i have thought my house was haunted and still do allthough itis spooky it isnt scary bacause they have caused no harm. the graves in there are weird altoug u can only see 5 graves onthe slabe there is many more

Ian Spencer: 1st Feb 2007 - 13:20 GMT

I trained as a psychiatric nurse at Netherne (Sept. 1979-March 1984 - which included a stint at the nearby Redhill General to to my SRN training).
The Graveyard was in a similar state even then. There were also remnants of the old farms - poultry sheds, orchard. Generally, its a really lovely part of the world. I used to spend many a happy hour wandering quiet country lanes. Then not even all the staff knew where the graveyard was. I was told about it and then found it almost by accident. It was quite a nice place to work - although fairly awful for hundreds of institutionalised patients.

Imelda Pentony: 21st Mar 2007 - 23:51 GMT

Having trained at Netherne as a psychiatric nurse in the late 60s, I too stumbled across the cemetry by accident. i was actually picking blackberries along the hedgerows in Woodplace Lane . There was very little traffic along that lane then and it was a joy to take long rambles around the area of Netherne hospital.I once heard the old cemetry was a favourite place for courting couples after closing time at the Social Club which is nearby.Perhaps it wasnt so overgrown with brambles and nettles then!

Caroline: 27th Mar 2007 - 12:56 GMT

I lived at Woodplace Farm until ten years ago and we always did what we could to protect and respect the burial ground.I believe there are literally hundreds of poor souls interred there, many unrecorded deaths, forgotten people , so much pain. We alwys hoped they found peace in this beautiful corner and were comforted to see on your website that they are still undisturbed. It is a very spiritual place.
We once had to rescue a roe deer that had got hung up on that lovely old gate. Her companion, another hind, waited only yards away. They rested the night in the cemetary, among the brambles and next day they both melted into the woods.

kelly : 20th May 2007 - 17:21 GMT

i live on netherne but have no idea where this area is? wouldnt it be a nice idea to tidy it up?

Sharon: 22nd May 2007 - 15:35 GMT

I too live in Netherne and do not know where this cemetary is. Could someone please enlighten me. Many thanks.

Sam: 15th Jun 2007 - 23:42 GMT

Sharon,

The cemetary is well hidden away between the old tree nursery and the football pitch on Woodplace Lane. Take a look at the attached map, which should get you there in one piece.

Sam

Steve: 22nd Jul 2007 - 06:49 GMT

Sam,

Having just spent a day trying to find this cemetry without success I could really use some help. How can I view the "attached map" you refer to. I found Woodplace lane and the football pitch but no sign of atree nursery.

Steve.

Dev Ramdas: 25th Nov 2007 - 19:57 GMT

I trained at Netherne as a psychiatric nurse from 1979 to 1981 and did not know anything about the cemetery. It was a nice place to work and I have some fantastic memories of my time there.

susan anne hitch: 30th Dec 2007 - 16:38 GMT

ive just discovered my aunt spent some time here after she was sectioned,was hopeing some one whode worked there could tell me what it would have been like for the patience,
many thx in advance

Alan Ingram: 31st Dec 2007 - 18:42 GMT

My wife is trying to find any info about her uncle, Derek Arthur Bateman, who died in Netherne in May 1978. Any leads as to why he was there or any memories would help us to find a sadly forgotten member of our family.

Lucy Hart: 29th Jan 2008 - 19:12 GMT

I grew up in Netherne Lane as my father worked at Netherne,we used to go down to the graveyard by crossing over the farmers field stating from Park Lane.Netherne was a great place to grow up,the orchid,the woods and fields were all around us,and not once were we afraid to go out.I remember days of going out on my push bike and not coming home till late,and everyone knew everyone else.
The social club would take the estate kids up to Wembley every year to see the ice show,we would have sport days down 'the club',a bonfire every year...it was a great place to be brought up.

Deborah Kemp 30th Jan 2008: 31st Jan 2008 - 20:53 GMT

Like Lucy Hart I grew up in Netherne Lane also as my father worked at Netherne, we spent many a day on the estate playing in and around the hospital, in Boxers wood (end of Park Lane, to your left). Our parents never worried about us as we never wandered far. I remember the hospital xmas parties put on for staff and families followed by the pantomines, holiday on ice organised by the social club was a great one to. I moved back here two years ago and still live in the house I was brought up in. Alot has changed but when I walk around the village I smile to myself and think about the good old days. It's ashame the grave yard was never looked after there are only a few of us that remember it clearly.

Dinny Laufenboeck: 10th Feb 2008 - 08:17 GMT

I recently learnt that a Great-Uncle died at Netherne Asylum in 1916 after having been there for 3 years (admitted after a "normal" and productive life). In searching for more information about the institution, I came across this website. Thankyou Simon Cornwell and all who have commented on his article so sympathetically.

donna saunders: 24th Apr 2008 - 12:24 GMT

after recently doing some family history research, i discovered that my great uncle, Ernest Osman born 1908 died at netherne aged only 12 years old. I am trying to find out who to contact so i can see how the asylum would have looked when it first opened in 1907.

Sue Hadingham:24th April 2008 -19:50 GMT: 24th Apr 2008 - 19:03 GMT

My Grandfather was the senior administrator at Netherne for many years and similarly my Grandmother worked on the wards as a nurse. My fondest memories were also visiting the pantomime and staying at my Grandparents in Woodplace Lane. I loved my Grandads garden with huge vegetables and rhubarb that backed on to the downs and loved many walks around the hospital, grounds and surrounding area. I too am interested in finding archive images, and historic information as many people in my adult life weirdly seem to have been associated with Netherne at some time in their lives. We have found a common interest through working with mental health patients and people with learning disabilities now living in the community. I have two teenage children with learning disabilities, and recently been involved in a campaign with Michael Gove M.P. to keep my local residential care home open, where people with disabilities and mental health problems have lived for many years.

I always remember Netherne being a happy place,the patients seemed happy and i know my Grandparents loved working there.For memories sake i would like to find that information for something to keep and show my family friends and my children

Sue Hadingham:24th April 2008 -19:50 GMT: 24th Apr 2008 - 19:28 GMT

P.S., thought the photos are great. As an artist i might take a few of my own and post. Haven't been back to Netherne since my Grandad retired in about 1980.

Lucy Hart: 13th May 2008 - 14:23 GMT

Hi,there is a book that was written and photos taken by a guy called Goerge Foggerty(i think thats his name).Just after the hospital closed he sold these to the remaining workers at Netherne..i will see if i can get his phone number and he might be able to help you with any info you might like.

alan : 19th Jun 2008 - 13:57 GMT

Hi ALL,I LIVE IN NETHERNE NOW,THR OLD MALE CONVERSLESENCE WARD,I ALSO HAVE THE BOOK PEOPLE MENTIONED I WILL DIG IT OUT,VERY INTERESTING READING.

Annie Hills: 30th Jul 2008 - 12:37 GMT

Hi I live at Netherne, in the former Admin Building. I have copies for sale of the book "A Pictorial History of Netherne" written by George Frogley ( former manager of the hospital print works). It is a wonderful history of the site, loads of photos ad 100 of the sale proceeds go to mental health charities. If anyone would like a copy, you can email me at annieandoscarhills@hotmail.co.uk. They cost £10 inclusive of p&p.

netherne child: 22nd Aug 2008 - 09:56 GMT

ive lived up in netherne for 7 years now with my parents and 2 siblings, i can say that there are hardly any more memorials of the asylum except for ofcourse the grave yard, water tower, and netherne ward me and my friends believe it to be

Lino: 22nd Aug 2008 - 14:26 GMT

Hello everyone. I came from Italy in holiday and end up working in Netherne as a porter first and then in the kitchen. The patient was treated very well and I have great memories. Beautiful place, I would like to trace some of my work friends Hassan my manager in the kitchen, or any other that remember me and my ex girlfriend Anna she use to work in the massive lawndry.
I have some photograph of the long corridor, and the wards somewhere. I use to live in the nursing home, and also use to go regularly at the club, or at the red lion pub in coulsdon. all around there was beatiful and safe, the countryside in spring time simply the best. Great years of my life

Maz, Netherne: 23rd Aug 2008 - 18:02 GMT

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Hi everyone, I came across this site by mistake yesterday and was fascinated by everyone's stories and reading about the grave yard. I had heard other people here at Netherne mention it in the past so decided to go out this morning and see if we could find it.
We did find it and took some pictures and made some notes of the names on the graves so we could try and find out more about who the people were.
My 9 year old daughter and I were particularly touched by the grave of Betty Trotman who died on 31st May 1929 only 7 years old. Her stone is the easiest to read. We pulled out a few stinging nettles that were growing in the cracks and took some photos to add to this site. My pictures are a little greener than those above as it is August. The brambles have been completely taken over by 4 foot high stinging nettles except for the large concrete slam containing the grave stones, 6 in total plus a large cross top centre.
It is not at all creepy or eerie there but we did leave feeling sorry for the forgotten souls.
Maz

d saunders: 1st Sep 2008 - 07:54 GMT

these photos of the website are wonderful as i mentioned earlier, my great uncle ernest died aged 12 at netherne asylum in 1920 and i am trying to find out if he was buried there or whether his body was returned to my great grandparents. i contacted the Surrey history centre and they were very encouraging and helpful. i am hoping to come to visit netherne soon and i hope i manage to find the graveyard. It is amazing just how many people keep saying that Netherne was such a great place to work.

Martin Lee 11th Sep 2008: 11th Sep 2008 - 14:54 GMT

After searching for 7 yrs I have finally found what must be the final resting place of my fathers mother whose death cert I have at last obtained. It was and still is a very sad story. She was run over by a Dray in Islington circa 1926 after being raped by her brother and because of her injuries was sectioned and placed in several institutions, hence my father and brother lost all trace of her. One of my fathers last wishes was for me to find what happened to her but I was unable to grant his last wish in NOV 2007. Now I have traced her I just pray that he is looking down and now resting in peace. Her name was Ellen Phyllis Lee (nee Oakley). Does anyone have a record of who was buried in the Asylum graveyard.(mart9827@hotmail.com)

anon (host86-132-112-71.range86-132.btcentralplus.com): 16th Oct 2008 - 12:48 GMT

my name is catherine and i live in netherne on blue leaves avenue in the little cul de sac does anyone have any information on what part of the old asylum would have been where my home is now?

Annie Hills: 9th Nov 2008 - 20:05 GMT

catherine, I have copies of the book about the history of netherne, and also a plan of the original site, u can email me at netherne_bowls_club@hotmail.co.uk.
The book is £10 including P&P, it really is a fab memento for anyone connected with Netherne, all proceeds go directly to a mental health charity

paul..: 10th Nov 2008 - 19:15 GMT

hi..i am paul.. i used to live up in netherne..i used to live at park lane.(no i wont say what number.lol)..i used to live at my parents house.their house is well haunted!! thats why i dont see my mum much.i do love my mum to bits though..even woodplace lane is haunted too!!.not just saying that-BUT IT IS!!..i remembered times i used to walk up that hill-the demons i used to see on that road!! it bused to scare me!!..then u got my mum's house--lovley house--i mean that too..then evey one goes to bed--in the kitchen there is a demon stands there!! it dont do any thing--just stands there--freaky!!..i remember times i used to be in my bed as u do,i close my eyes,second later-5 of these demons stand round my bed praying and speaking to their god and one of them strangled me!!.this happened few times..also at times i am in bed watching tv as u do-couple of mins later it feels my feet is on fire!! then i lifed up the bed sheet-nothing there!!..i had enough of this!! so 2005 i moved out-thornton heath here i come!!..left my parents behind..i moved to galpins road..in my mind i was thinking-yes no more demons!!! well,thats what i thort!!..yes they followed me!! all the way!!! ..only once i saw one of those demons in that road.nothing happened.. each time i go to my mum's house i see them there..then i moved to redhill.brighton road infact.touch wood! i havent seen any thing here,just heard things.. any ways.. moving on..

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