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Bayside Watcher: There are many interesting posts here and many interesting questions and facts to check on.
In one of the previous posts it is questioned if it is true that Congregation Shaare Zedek used funds intended for...... Humboldt1: PlGrd,
Nice to see you are back from CityData. I was starting to get really down about black renters in general, but have had a new renter (black family) in my suburban place in Itasca...... lucy hart: Hi Catherine,the part of netherne that is now blue leaves avenue did not house any patients,when i moved here in the 70's as a child the area to the left of the green bungalow was...... Pantera: Unfortunately these cases or even WORSE happen many times. When I was a kid in my hometown Szeged (M.E.-Europe, Hungary) there were 2 abandoned cemeteries, a protestant and a catholic (mainly...... Rohinton Ghandhi: November 27th, 2008
To City Noise Editors,
I have recently begun writing articles for the Verdun Messenger's new English Corner segment. They cover Verdun's history and the people within it.
I thought your group...... Brodidly AB: Bushwick!! What can I say? It can be an interesting place to live in and it can be a nightmare. To all those who are contemplating moving to Bushwick, on the serious tip you...... pissed off local: where is the hill or did you miss this on perpose !!!!!!
and the last few are a flaming industrial estate !!!!!... Young meet the old Festival: If you fancy a good old Cockney Knee's up this weekend
Bermondsey based Pearly King Jimmy Jukes the Genuine Pearly king of camberwell
and Wayne Adams better known as The Barrow Boys, will be entertaining the...... Humboldt1: Arquitecto,
Seriously, you don't need to use all the 5 dollar words. I have been in Humboldt Park for the past 3 years, having purchased an apartment building here in which I live. I...... upfromflames: Lou: It depends on what part of Bushwick you are talking about, as the process of demographic change proceeded differently in different part of the neighborhood. In ther southern side of Bushwick--south of Myrtle--the process...... admod: the freedom tunnel.top notch graf
all the way.
leeds band bedlam-ago go.
back on the estate,so ya better watch ya bassbins..
... serlingrod: In response to the last post - first of, let me say that I live in Philadelphia and have worked as a community organizer in Kensington for the past several years. I mention this to...... Who Cares for Kensington: Everyone has someone else to blame and I guess that's the ameriacan way for losers these days. Buildings, streets and real estate agents do no breed ignorance, but sub-cultures do and Kensington is definitely a...... phantom: Regarding the economic side of the Kensington exodus - Google: Kensington and Globalization. The frst entry in the search findings should be a paper on the topic published at Kutztown State by Mike Kelly on...... The GumbyUF MSD: Bushwick...oh, Bushwick. How I love and miss thee. Sorry I left you, but I had to explore other states and neighborhoods. Needless to say, you are still the very, very best piece of real estate...... Lynda Phillips , sons Paul and Mike Phillips, Caroline st, Irlam adn Carlisle Dr, Irlam: Hello, Im just blown away by this fantastic site found by accident. I was looking for my old school friend William Mcormick/mcCormack from Salford born around 1955. I lived in Caroline Street aged 18 with...... JOSEPH BRIDGE: the largest exodus occured in the late 70's and lasted throughout all of the eighties. people who could afford to move did just that. but the neighborhood held its ground til about 1987-88. then, real...... cyril bagshaw: Hi Tony
Gerrards Close is a cul-de-sac off Ferryhill road Irlam. This estate was only built in the 1930's, and was built on farm property.
Cheers Cyril....... Jamie: eh, she's right you know. According to wikipedia [[wiki:Trafford Park]] ##was## the first ever planned {industrial estate}... Sheila Vaudrey:
Thanks for the photo's legal or otherwise. I remember standing on Barton Lane, to watch the chimneys fall, you should have seen the clouds of dust. also Another first for our area, Trafford...... John (aged 44 and a bit): Ahh so many memories. I left irlam in 1985 not i may add for the sandy beaches and climate of a far off land but the more mundane surroundings of Oldham. I grew up on...... sharon, swansea: hi could i explain why i`m posting this please,
I LOST MY 19 YR OLD SON KARL,( AKA KARLO...) TO METHADONE MISUSE, IN OCT 2007,
AN ABSOLUTE WASTE OF A LIFE, HE WAS...... Stuart Brennan: Hello Norma,
I'm going to try and post an old class photo from Cadishead Juniors once I get my dad to scan it for me. He's the computer whizz in the family at 84!
I will have...... Sheila Vaudrey: Hello Jenny and Janet(Sutton), I lived at No 42 Harewood Road and I do remember you living there also I remember the field that belonged to your granddad, it came at the side...... Peter: are you crazy, or just seriously uninformed? nothing rebuilt, nothing touched? thats not true at all! i commute through the WTC site/station every day, and theres so much going on there... sure, its a slow...... walter nyoike: You really inspired me with your wise,well thought and encouraging words which have made me to realise that my childhood thinking and dream is also shared by an intelligent kenyan out there.Am 22 and newly...... anon (spc1-ward4-0-0-cust157.bagu.broadband.ntl.com): Thanks Dom Smith for putting on the picture of shops on Tiger Moth square.It brought back happy memories when I was growing up on the estate.Never thought I would see a picture of how it...... Cyril Bagshaw: Hi Dom,
I will pass on to my son John the photos of the housing estate shops where he and his nana Jaques ( Vi as she liked to be called) had the greengrocery at the...... Andrew Smith: Here's some photo's contributed by Dom Smith (friend but no relation) - photo's of Irlam in the late 1980's
The parade on the estate - butchers on the left, newsagent in the middle (run by Dom's...... Martin Kavanagh: Thank Rob, my only memory of Neville Drive was a short cut to school through the estate and most puzzling I seem to remember a shed at the front of the house?? I've looked...... Richard de la Rey: We used to always stay at either the Drum Rock or Bushman's Rock Hotel on the way to the Kruger when we were lighties. I'm talking about the 1970's. Hell we used to love it....... Rob Tynan: Hi Martin,
They started to build the estate about 1964.
Rob... cyril bagshaw: Hi Susan
The bakery which you knew as Potter's Bakery for many years previous, was owned by James Goodier, brother of Joseph Goodier, who incidentally was the organist at St John's church in Vicar Lee's era,and...... cyril bagshaw: Hi Alan,
Ah! Musnt be the same family,Ken is at least 11 years my junior. The Beswick brothers I mentioned both delivered on their greengrocery round to the Margarine works estate in the 1950's.
The double fronted...... EvilGentleman: The house in the second-last photo is not too bad looking for a recent construction, even though it is somewhat lacking in "soul". Perhaps the soul will be acquired over time, although the building rising...... Gav: real estate is a long slow thing. those properties are being amased by some developer that might be waiting for the last piece (little old lady)to fall into place. Think 20-25 yrs out,it's not that...... jeeff: "block-busting" is a little different than what you describe, and probably not exactly what went on here. in the US, real estate agents would leave pamphlets and things in target neighbourhoods warning that minorities...... EvilGentleman: El, since they were government-funded homes originally intended for the families of veterans returning from WWII, it is most unfortunate that the government decided to stop funding them.
If you look at the comments in the...... Elicar: If something is dear to you, take care of it.
Nobody cared ENOUGH for Benny Farms. Otherwise, it would not be in such a state of disrepair.
Would you rather be sentimental and let the mosntrosity...... anon (d58-111-103-252.adl2.sa.optusnet.com.au): Hi Anne
No private fireworks for us now, the danger of bushfires is too great.Leaving Irlam after spending 55 years there was a big pull, and came about after visiting my wife's sister Edith (nee Jaques)...... Roger: I'm an artist who is not a hipster. I am moving further east in Bushwick because the rent is cheaper for what you can get, as I'm saddled in debt. I'm half Peruvian...... Natalie Waterworth (Brophy): Hi Alan,
I lived off Broadway, and we referred to it as "The Cow Fields" too, I never knew it as "The Jezzies" until my now husband ( from the Estate) called it that one...... anon: Hi everyone the girl julie some of you mention im 100% sure she lives on the mossvale estate near me... Julie Skidmore : There was a girl called Julie Skidmore who lived on Broadway Estate who wore leg braces but I do not know the reason why. The last we heard of Julie Skidmore was when...... Re to still in Hutch: I know what you are saying. Five years ago I was really checking Mcpherson out to buy a home there and work,as I allready had a job in Mac. My Gosh,the price of real estate...... Alan Taylor: Hi Rob,
Yes I certainly remember that wilderness and the stories but my time period in there and along the River Glaze to the footbridge that connected Glazebrook to Cadishead over a big rough n wild...... Alan: I hope you like the Oh Fred sketch as it reminds when we played in the old cemetery near the Broadway estate houses... Alan Taylor: Hi Marissa,
When they built the Margarine Works Estate then built the roads and laid the services, then built the corner houses, afterwards they built the infills between the corner houses, so there was lots of...... Joanne Amorello-minor: Hi Cyril,
Wow a small world we live in,I remember walking into it...You may remember my mum whan we lived there we lived at number 67 her name was sue...I know you came across many people...... Cyril Bagshaw: Hello Joanne,
Believe it or not, I drove the blue van that you so rightly recall, it was a walk-in travelling greengrocery that serviced the Margarine Works estate as it was called, and the Harewood road...... Marissa Chaplin: Hiya all
Thanks for all the info on the photos.
Boundary Rd Church is still methodist, not sure when it was rebuilt, I will try and find out.
The Fabric Shop was and still is double fronted (although...... Marissa Chaplin: Hi Rob
Sorry I havent, they are mainly the High School and the Margarine Estate, as thats where I live.
If I get the chance to go up again, I will get some.
Glad you liked the pics...... Marissa Chaplin: The "Bullring" on the Margarine Estate
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... Rob Tynan: Hi Norma,
Yep, I remember Mike and Sheila, I can remember me and my dad giving mike a lift home once after a band concert. Correct me if I am wrong, but Mike played...... Deborah Kemp 30th Jan 2008: Like Lucy Hart I grew up in Netherne Lane also as my father worked at Netherne, we spent many a day on the estate playing in and around the hospital, in Boxers wood (end of...... Ken: What are you people talking about? Kensington (at least parts of it) are getting better not worse, there are many great things going on here and I am offended by some of the comments that...... pearlykingjim: Wotch ya Tammy
Long time no see as you can tell by the post on this forum
someone got the hump with pearly kings and queens
your not alone in your comments
i have in the past been acused...... Lucy Hart: I grew up in Netherne Lane as my father worked at Netherne,we used to go down to the graveyard by crossing over the farmers field stating from Park Lane.Netherne was a great place to grow...... Rob Tynan: Alan
Ship hotel is very much the same as the picture you posted except there is a new housing estate in the carpark and over the bowling green, and "Marvels Market" building which was to the...... Alan Taylor: Hello everyone, lots of names cropping up that I recall, but more are from after I left my birth town in 1965/6 although I continued at the steelworks until 1972 & transfered to Scunthorpe Works....... Natalie Waterworth (Brophy): Thanks guys. Yes it was the building that was next to the doctors surgery, on the corner of Fairhills road and liverpool rd. I remember there was a Lidl supermarket there last time I...... Natalie Waterworth (Brophy): Thanks Bob, that has cleared a few questions up for me. However, What do they do with the bones and gravestones when they develop the land for housing such as the housing estate that was...... riiiiiight: i was born and raised in bk. i just checked out a new "luxury condo" developement out there a whim (when i was told my rent was being jacked up another 300 bucks). ...... little ukraine: [[http://money.cnn.com/2007/11/16/real_estate/suprime_and_crime/index.htm?cnn=yes]]
... Robert Patten: Finally (for now), three pictures from May 2007 from what we call Teletubby Hills, near the Northbank Industrial Estate and can be seen from the Cadishead Way bypass.
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You can see the Rehau building, and if...... nuclearrabbit33: I used to work for a carriage company in Chicago. We had to pass through Cabrini Green every single day...both on the way to downtown and the way back to our barns at night. In...... james garrow: i'm in grand rapids at the Devos childrens hospital. checking out the web to pass time...i live and sell real estate at the torch river bridge. really enjoyed the site, and it IS...... little ukraine: oops hit post too soon-
just a few more words - the area i described has been well under... er, 'development' for over a decade, and it's hitting the point where shitloads of condos are...... Hutchinson Sucks: Let me just restate what Donald Walters said above--
##I challenge any Hutch resident to name me TEN particular, redeeming, specific traits about the town that make it "special". And not stuff like "it's a good...... Big Bank Hank: A lot of murals that are seen in estates etc could be seen to be graffiti, If you lived at an end house with a gable wall it was a prime target for terrorist groups...... serlingrod: East Kensington does have alot of problems, but just like everywhere you go there are good people trying to make a difference. I actually work full-time in this neighborhood for the New Kensington Community Development...... Bushwick Girl: My Bushwick...I love this neighborhood. I've been in the bush since 1988 I migrated here when I was 8 yrs old. Back then I was too young to understand what was really happening in this...... Roy Bamber: Does anybody remember the day that the Manchester Ship Canal burst into flames trapping a rowing boat that was ferrying passengers across the canal? One on the passengers who was badly burned but survived lived...... Brooklyn-Pete: Bushwick is not the worst neighborhood in Brooklyn, it's definately no Park Slope but it is not as bad as some would have others believe. The neighborhood is very noisy and extremely filthy on many...... EvilGentleman: We have both tended to focus on the area of downtown near Guy-Concordia metro, probably due to our being Concordia students. I also hang around with the native crowd in the west end of downtown,...... CT: I am an estate agent locally and have been informed (maybe true or not, I do not know!) that the Aquila site used to have 100' deep water tanks where they used to test-dive to...... Hutch1: To the original poster of the photos.
You took photos of only the worst of the town. What state has a year round State Fair? The old hospital is not across from a highway. I do...... KB: Lived in Bushwick on Eldert Street, btw Knickerbocker & Irving, from when I was born, until we moved away in 1967, when I was 16. Things had gotten rough in 1966, when there was...... whowalkinbrooklyn.com: lots of interesting comments here, some ridiculous yuppie wannabes, but many more sincere & heartening-- esp. about Bushwick's Italian heritage & Spanish-speaking peoples. One thing i'd like to add tho' is, all this BULLSHIT about,...... rudy.sellsius: awesome pics!
i remember walking the highline many moons ago - looks pretty much the same. thanks for taking me back in time.
- rudy.sellsius°
http:blog.sellsiusrealestate.com... upfromflames: Armstrong: sorry for the delay. The answer to your question is an interesting one, since you (as a better off new--white--face the hood) represent one of the forces creating change in this area. Gentrification is...... jms: my wife and I have a 10 month old. Currently, we're looking in bushwick - want to save and purchase a home/condo once the real estate market recovers (maybe in bushwick). I've lived in...... Natalie Waterworth (Brophy): Hi D McCormick! This is Steve Waterworth who used to live on the Irlam estate, in Neville Drive. I'm now living in Melbourne, Australia (not in a council house - ha,ha)and I'm married to Natalie...... upfromflames: Is that a real progam happening or a just marketting-type hopefulness for real estate returns?... colavitos ghost: this proves it; public housing--american or otherwise--just pretty much sucks.
i've never been to glasgow, london, or any other british city for that matter, but from what i've read and seen in these photos, it seems...... VinniethePooh: There's oe on the block of Nostrand between GATES AVE. & QUINCY AVE. The Gates side used to have a club before the arabs took the store on the corner. The Quincy side has a...... Eviva: I just bought a condo off the Dekalb Avenue L stop. I really like the area and while it's true that Bushwick isn't quite Williamsburg, I see ample potential. Also, real estate in Bushwick is...... blueeyes: Last year, I moved from Williamsburg "Prime" (Bedford stop), where I lived happily but cautiously for 7 years. During that time my next door neighbor was held up at gunpoint at our front door (2005),...... vvargas: all this talk about bushwick being unsafe and that only ppl looking to flip their properties are going to encourage you to live here is nonsense. change starts somewhere and it has already started....... Mushi: Uponflames and Jimmy QV -- also, when choosing a place to live, no real estate agent did an upsell to me. I didn't go through a broker to find my place, just an add online....... jack: i have a lot of respect for you, you are a person who cares for humanity. the few mega wealthy don't give a crap for the poor, they figure whats the use, if the...... upfromflames: Further clarification on gut renos:
OK, now this is making a lot more sense to me. No, HPD does not handle the gut renos shown above directly. But the people who once lived here are not...... upfromflames: Word on that, from JimQV, although I did disagree with you yesterday for your approach.
But on that last point, its true.
Real Estate speculators have an interest in manipulating people---but its not just the...... JimQV: Yeah, over the months there have been people who've posted here, thinking of moving to Bushwick, asking for an opinion about the safeness of the neighborhood. Why not give them an honest opinion, based on...... EvilGentleman: joey - sometimes, a picture can show a thousand times more than words can, and other times, a picture cannot even begin to describe the horror of reality. This is one of those cases. I...... upfromflames: [[img:18823]]
Take a look at this boarded up oddity, on the short, quaint oddball strip of Goodwin Place. A boarded up house next to a new development, how odd! You'd think they'd try to buy them...... upfromflames: ** The Urban Ecology of Arson**
The power of the Wallace's interpretation is its integrated systems approach.
just as flames cannot burn in a vacuum, the flames of July 13th did not arise out of nowhere....... jack: esmer, your probably too young to know what this is about so i'll explain it simply to you. since the inception of this nation we have always depended upon men and women to fight...... mark rogers: hi Natalie. Fancy reading your comments here. Nat and I grew up in the same street and I too now live in Australia. Anyone out there from Irlam now living in Queensland. Drop me a...... LicieLove: I'm a chicago native reading this book for the first time, I'm 20 now. I grew up on the Southside in Inglewood, but I went to private schools my entire life. And at 8......
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