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Comments about cyclist vs driverThere are 56 comments about "cyclist vs driver"
CartLegger: But the point is, before the driver of the bicyclist has made their fateful and unfortunate decision, thousands of other decisions have already been made for both parties: by auto makers, city planners, politicians, road...... Cameo: The cabbies' fault no doubt... They are by far the worst drivers on the roads in this city. They are a menace to both cyclist, pedestrian and other motorists. Two days ago...... Cameo: wow... Even the cabs in NYC have the cow-catchers in front of them now.
These are obviously there to protect the car as it hits "things." But, does it also protect the driver from...... BZZZP: if that bus driver can't see a volvo suv, they're certainly no ally of any bicyclist... Liz: 38? - people who park in bike lanes.
Last summer I saw one such idiot, last summer, park in a bike lane and then open his door into the car lane. Unfortunatly he didn't realize that...... What's Really Going On Here: Many feel the attention given to this matter is as shameful as some aspects of the event itself. Certainly a few nutbars roused themselves from the backwaters from which they monitor society. ...... Litter did I Know: If any Driver/person/biker throws litter on the ground/ out their window into to my path, I am always ready to regift it to them. I don't need to throw it at them but if they...... the new guy: I just moved to Toronto this past fall. I have lived in Vancouver, a small college town in the U.S. midwest (Iowa City, IA) and most recently, Edmonton. Having only ever visited Toronto...... What's Really Going On Here: Since this has become a cyclist vs motorist thing...
Helmet Cams
Just as Richard Nixon wouldn't have been nailed without the tapes, technology is available that cyclists can use to get motorists to behave. The technology...... Fred Schtiener: Yea, I was going to ask who's the chick in the white vest, somebody get that info ok?
Courier vs Jack Ass, well the courier should of talked to any passengers in hopes of them...... OldUncleMike: True story:
As a 14 year old I was riding my bicycle between 2 small towns in Ohio, a pickup truck passed and a huge glob of cold brown stuff landed on my chest,..it tasted great....... reality check: RE: the commments on biycycles and autos being invented at the same time... Wrong... bicycles have a far longer timeline. In fact the first paved roads in America were done so for...... Dan: I can't believe I read this far...
Because of the notoriety of this blog entry, its not surprising to see so many trolls coming here. I have to believe that a lot of the angry people...... JimboToronto: I can't believe the hatred spewing from the tiny pea brains of the cargoofs.
Cargoof Matt says,"That dumb courier got what she deserved. They selectively follow traffic laws, and then all of a sudden they're environmentalists?...... Wendy: I dont agree with all of the references to this cyclist being an "environmentalist" or trying to "save the world", etc...This, to me, is not a "polluting SUV driver versus greeny cyclist" story. Why...... cobber: I cannot believe that the police did not lay charges. If it was a domestic, there would be no question about charges being laid (she was no match for that guy physically). Although I definitely...... cobber: I cannot believe that the police did not lay charges. If it was a domestic, there would be no question about charges being laid (she was no match for that guy physically). Although I definitely...... andy: What is miracle? .... cyclist stopping at stop sign.
I see lots of disrespect and ignorance toward car drivers from cyclists.
So it’s no wonder that somebody snaped
... To "this man is a hero": It's funny,
I would have thought it would have taken a shorter time for someone from the states to do the whole, if you don't agree with me, then you're not an american crap...
before I read...... Responsible Biker: She was the first to commit assault by throwing food into his car. She started the fight by taking it upon herself to play litter-vigilante. He didn't behave appropriately, but it's hypocritical to act like...... White vest girl it's time to say sorry.: The white vest girl speaks:
And I quote her from her posted reply way back in this mess.
The "Motorists": 31st Jan 2006 - 22:26 GMT
To All The Readers,
"This is the blonde girl in the last picture....... What's Really Going On Here: It's interesting that this is primarily a concerned citizen vs. a s***head matter, not a cyclist vs motorist issue. The reason why it has exploded as the latter is due to the decades of...... Illwind: Wrongs done by these two upstanding citizens:
1) Driver (idiot) throwing trash out of his van/SUV
2) Cyclist (not-thinking properly) throws trash back into driver's car
3) Driver gets out of van/SUV and attacks cyclist +/- bike
Wow! ...... frustrated cyclist: people like that driver is why our world is so un-sustainable and shitty. I agree, the cyclist probably should have ignored it, but I know where she is coming from. Why is it...... Forkmiester: Ya know, having been a cyclist and a motorist in tarrana, i do understand his fustrations and hers. But when you look at the situation:
- he litters by throwing out garbage from his window. Arse....... ketchup-wrappers, not hamburger patties.. part 2 : my friend really had little choice but to switch to a combination of (a) home heating oil (b) used transmission fluid , and (c) old engine oil, to power his vehicle. gas prices were way...... Krusty: To:saskatooncycling@yahoogroups.com
This kind of article just drives me nuts. It's just another
case of that god damn CBC forwarding it's socialist agenda and attempting it's usual "social engineering" by reporting on some insignificant action of what was...... Vancouver Cyclist: I have a lot of sympathy for Leah. I have often been tempted to return trash to the scum who think the streets are their trash can. Keying the car was a dumb move though,...... 4 mode observation: This incident is an excellent example of some of the worst features of human behaviour and the consequences that result from the actions of those who are misguided and self indulgent enough to believe they...... driver and cyclist: Cyclist should really get a clue and stop trying to a motorvehicle when its convenient for them, and a pedestrian when its not. I can't count the number of times that I am turning right,...... Voice of Reason: They are both at fault. They both lack control and responsibility.
It is/was not the cyclists place or responsibility to discipline or "educate" the driver of his ignorance. The garbage should not have been thrown back...... City Dweller II: Ms. Thang:
Excellent post, I couldn't agree more. I'm both a driver and a cyclist, and I'm as fed up with self-righteous vigilante cyclists who ignore the law and believe that the streets belong to...... Sean M: Bad all around.
1) Driver for (allegedly) throwing out garbage.
2) Idiot cyclist for throwing it back at him (C'mon, it's biodegradable, not like a cigarette butt).
3) Both of them for escalating this beyond reason....... Carlos: The motorist is an idiot. He got exactly what he deserved. Instead of walking to a garbage can or holding onto his garbage until he could dispose of it in its proper place...... Ms. Thang: No matter what the driver says( if indeed that was his post)look at your face buddy. Really, nothing more needs to be said.
I started cycling in Toronto back in 1980; it was bad then,...... mr_walker: too much writing to digest. tried to leave a comment earlier, now i'm so text-drunk i'm not sure if it made it ...
anyways, GOOD ON YA, LEAH! i've done the same (i.e. return...... City Dweller II: Leah, the cyclist, is not in my mind an honour to our city. A knee-jerk reaction such as the one that she made is -- albeit righteous and somewhat amusing -- foolish and inflammatory,...... roads for all: This guy needs an angermanagement class. Drivers forget, it is a privilege to drive not a right. Cyclists share the road equally, and they also must be mindful of the risk involved. This guy could've...... dude had a baseball bat!: "That Cyclist should be charge for assault, that cyclist should have learn, report to police, don't take the law in your own hand. If it is up to me, you should be charge for assault...... poprad99: I have been riding bikes for 32 years and burning fossil fuels for 22 years.
I have been commuting year-round by bike for 9 years. I was assaulted and battered by a motorist in 1990 for...... vancouver: Having read the story on CBC.ca and clicking on the link, I have to wonder about people.
To the courier: It was fucking trash, hopefully you didn't get hurt. Some of the pics show you...... To 'She Had in coming', 'The Motorists' and Everyone else.: It's too late to defend this very very dumb individual. Why is it everyone who claims to know him personally writes the exact same way? So "Brother in Law" are the kind of...... jonnathan: This is a bit off topic, but it addresses the problems of cyclists vs motorists in toronto. I am both and find cyclists are far worse on the road than drivers. I was sitting...... Tim: to understand these two gays , you have to be in both sides, I mean like a cyclist and like a Driver...
you have to get an experience like this...ride a bike a Drive a car,,,
The...... Yolanda -saskatoon driver & cyclist: I'm really pleased to see the bystanders stepping in. We shouldn't take that for granted as it's becoming quite rare. Crimes are committed in open view in daylight with bystanders who not only...... jos: Steve in Vancouver (jan 31, 22:30), thanks for your words of wisdom.
Cyclist, I'm glad you weren't hurt more badly than you were. You were at great risk.
Bystanders, thanks for getting involved and protecting the vulnerable.
As...... The "Motorists": To All The Readers,
This is the blonde girl in the last picture. The girl in the "white vest" that the "victim" would like to thank. You can start by sending...... No_Seriously: It's too bad that people just don't investigate real information rather than just assuming lots of crap that is based on speculation.
The blond in the picture is his Fiancé. What happened is that they...... Earl: I think its great that more people arre biking and not using cars and advocating changing our cities to be more bike friendly. i also think it great that this biker took fronted someone...... anon (cosh-cache-1.server.ntli.net): Couldn't she have just had a go at the guy? It's not like he dumped trash *on* her.
I'm not saying he was right to litter, pour coffee on her or try and assault her......... rrrrr: I am a cyclist (I also drive) and encounter this kind of rage from motorists quite frequently. I think it is important to retain a Zen like state while navigating the streets (as another person...... Es in Ottawa: Road rage is everywhere....my sister in law was on a city bus when the driver said to her watch this, he was about to 'squeeze out' a cyclist, when she saw it was her brother,...... rick: From what I heard (and I wasn't there, but this is from someone who was, and is there in the pictures wrestling with the driver), the driver came too close to the cyclist, nearly knocking...... toronto cyclist: your all basing it on assumptions of 'accurate' inforamtion, which Hool admits himself he didn't see how it all started. he just heard second hand that she picked up the garbage and threw it back...... kevin: as a bicycle commuter myself and someone who has had their share of run-ins with moron drivers i say the cyclist probably has enough pent up anger against just about anyone in a car to...... Peter: as both a cyclist and a pedestrian, i can certainly empathize with your thoughts about the flip/flop double-standard. cyclists who treat peds no better than autos treat cyclists are no better than the auto drivers......
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