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Tuesday, September 13th 2005
Previous Day :: Next Dayea: that's no fun. bet we wouldn't have most of ft.s photos that way either jayeastsider : Hey peter you from nyc? my ex wife is from the Bronx I got some cool nyc pic's as well I used to go down there about 3 to 4 times a year a love nyc. I am still working on posting some pic's hopefully have them up soon Anonymous (209.36.244.254): I really like the one agains the mural. He looks like a young Tom Waits there. ian: No, Schroedinger's Cat really is about cats. I own two of them, myself. Sometimes I hear something rustling in the other room, that I can't see. The fact is, that the sound I heard is the superposition of the two probabilities that either cat committed the offense. It does not... ian: Tears me apart. At least cats are fairly successful on their own.
http://www.citynoise.org/article/1344 jeeff: i did! i don't go there too often. next time i visit it'll be rainy cold november. maybe i'll do a "dreary london" entry. elaine: har, london uk is more like if londoners wont accept it noone will jeeff: yeah i bet if you got a good handle on that naming system it'd be impossible to ever get lost again. quen: Around here they have numbers on lamp posts, which I was able to decode; there's a two-letter code defining the grid square within the city (e.g. WH within the Walton Hall grid square, although it's not always quite that obvious), then another number presumably defining the 'run' of lights, then... harold: you should get into the old terminal in hoboken and snap some shots. unless they finally fixed that place up Peter: I hope jayeastsider sticks around. sometimes new opinions make for good discussions, and isn't that the point here? post something, dude! :) Anonymous (cpe-68-173-202-245.nyc.res.rr.com): didnt know they had carfloats on the west side.....what cross street?? jeeff: re: tattoo & talking about yourself in the 3rd person - hey, steve-o made a career out of shit like that. ;)
jayeastsider - definitely post some stuff. i'm curious to see what you've done. "pointless" might be a little harsh. i just think that if you spend... Peter: if londoners can accept it, anyone can
what a claim to fame for a city... interesting. you should do an entry about your hometown. i should too, i think.
mine looks like this:
jeeff: my hometown, london, ontario, is known as the most conservative city in canada. they still have faith meetings at the city bandshell and run editorials in the paper denouncing evolution. a few years ago the mayor refused to proclaim gay pride day on grounds that it was immoral... wd_39: That's a nice Magnum in the last photo. I might have to go pick it up. Peter: i would love to see some photos of that spot, jeeff... jeeff: shit, imagine walking down a little alley and finding this. i'd freak out. jeeff: in fact that reminds me of a spot here in toronto i call the 'bad graffiti hall of fame'. it's an ultra-secluded spot way back in a maze of alleys near the university campus. it's so safe that it seems to draw all the beginners out to practise... elaine: i nearly didn't - it's not really my usual thing, but it seemed churlish not to Peter: also: the "pint of beer" flower arrangement... interesting, heh. Peter: i love the contrast of the white delivery trucks and the black hearses. this was a really interesting thing to snap some photos of. thanks. Peter: layer after layer after layer of cityscape. i like. Peter: i hear there are lots of things in canada. it is, after all, a very large country. walter: theres christians in canada? reposte in tertio: i love jafars shit. but to each their own i suppose. just chalk me down on the side that considers it art. Peter: cant wait to see the photos. email the editors if you need additional help :) JayEastsider: jayeastsider thanks you for the info peter jayeastsider is going to get a big tattoo of my name on my arm lol look for my shopping cart pictures I will be posting them soon I took a bunch pictures of shopping carts that people took from stores and have left... Peter: so, i get it that you dont think its cool, and you have the right to feel that way for sure... but at its core, whats so bad about "getting a tattoo of your name on your arm and saying hey everybody this is my name and don't forget it"?... JayEastsider: Your absolutely right peter and after I did my mini doc I realized it is pretty pointless after all but what I don't understand is why does somebody like Jafer feel the need to place his tag everywhere it's like getting a tattoo of your name on your arm and... Peter: jamie- you still got that toycam?? the colors that came from that were NUTS! Peter: yep. thers definitely crap graffiti out there- dont get me wrong- im not trying to make a blanket statement here regarding the fact that good and bad graf exists.
but its when people label potentially cool stuff as "crap" because its "tagged" on "everything from peoples homes to historic buildings... jamie: thats the main reason you'll find my photos in black and white too, to be honest. elaine: it's a monkeyish kind of robot i think elaine: jeeff, you are waaaaay too honest ; D colavito's ghost: Right on, peter. Graffiti artists are always going to be villified for what they do, but the one question that is impossible to answer is: "Where is the line between art and eyesore/crime (if one even exists at all)?" What it boils down to is, if an artist... fuzzytank: agree, hard to figure out what they are getting at.
I also couldnt decide if it was the owner of the truck telling vandals he was watching or the other way around Jamie: mmmmm j'aime la stella artois beaucoup! jeeff: i'm not so big on tags. that's why i didn't focus on tags in this article (although i've never seen any jafer tags that offend me more than any of the rest of them). i hope you enjoy your mini-documentary. still sounds pretty pointless to me. elaine: horse eating robots! whatever next! Peter: so what exactly gives you the ability to judge what is "graffiti artwork" and what is "tagging"? your personal preferences? because i could argue that jeeff's or mine or anyone else's personal preferences are just as valid, and if opposite yours, would totally negate your premise. JayEastsider: I took the pictures to make a mini documentary on the difference between graffiti artwork vs. tagging everything from peoples homes to historic buildings (and everything else between) and Jafer is by far one of the guiltiest for this if don't believe me just take a walk along from Queen... Peter: mmmmmm, stella. jeeff: oh yeah, i see. in truth, they're b&w because they colours were crap. jeeff: everyone's gotta start somewhere. jeeff: that's a sexy stencil. jeeff: i've always wanted to be able to decode all those numbers & things you see on telephone poles. jeeff: and still he looks nonplussed. Christopher: Very nice shot! Makes me wish i was on a plane getting ready to jet the hell out of here! Peter: the pink-and-green combo always makes me think of watermellons. James (lj: ambienceman): the pink door is so random 561 bombed: JMUK!!!!!!!!!! Peter: exactly :) Jamie: kinda the reverse of the age old addage "a picture paints a thousand words" Peter: good find on the horese-eating skull-robot highway-trailer! :) Peter: yay yellow! Peter: i always like your writing, jamie. and maybe every now and then its ok to lose a photo-op... the description you wrote of the footpath and fields was vivid enough to conjur images in my own mind, and it was kind of nice to not have any real images to... Peter: woah!
at second glance, this immediately reminded me of an amalgam of brancusi sculptures... like "the kiss"...
jamie: chicken oriental Peter: hmm, let me rephrase that- i forgot that you couldnt read my mind- the first b/w pensive-ish style. yeah, of course- the colorful japan photos wer tops, and i love the shots around the garage out back of your place. but these... these evoke such a different vibe. thats what... Peter: advice you can live by! dont ever let anyone tell you that graf doesnt have at least one positive social ramification ;) Peter: haters always wanna hate. Peter: thats why its so amusing/interesting, spanks. Peter: the "roots"? in germany? lol. Peter: ...and then helios swept down from mt. olympus and put magic diamonds in hool's eyes. Peter: congratulations, sacramento... this is your first entry on citynoise! (thanks jess!) Peter: awesome entry, dude!
i love that last photo too- wow... amy: hool, you are inspired. Amy: Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh GGP: a robot skull with horses in it! Anonymous (203-59-185-99.dyn.iinet.net.au): they're all so HOT teamess: That's great!!!
no more comments elaine: sharp intake of breath! elaine: shoulda woulda coulda...
but isn't writing the new photography, jamie? slAng´86: ...back to the ROOTS!!!!!!!!!!
Germany!
... Spanky: Hmmm that stuff is ok....but why would people just attempt public art if they arent actually THAT good. Hopefully those are just first drafts and those artists will come back later on and improve on their work.
Yeh those don't look finished. And they dont seem to have much point... Selig: awesome shot no.1... hot colour. elaine: nice. i like the way the limited palette is echoed Selig: goodness allround! love the stomping skater with tonka truck kit. suited skeg is also grand! Selig: hehe... quality entry! ian: My first born shall be named "hool." joey: our new cat, mae be, keeps on knocking schumann off the ledge, but does not chew on him
joey: peter - is that a picture of the citynoise server, ha, ha. btw the upgraded graphics on the site are nice. joey: skull like poluted: this thread is so infested by gang unit. Good lookin out on those cameras- that info should be spread. Dont give locations to graff and dont talk about writers. Writing fuck msg almost sounds like a trap to see which dumbass goes back.
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