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lambchop: I've been beaten to a pulp for doing less than what she did, by big angry men. I'm wondering if the guy threw the food and somehow it landed on her? I think if had hit me in the face while riding, that's the only way I'd think...

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hool: hi leah (i'm the photographer). looks like i stirred up quite the shitstorm. i think it's caused a good debate and raised awareness. thanks for posting your side of the story. to the previous poster: no, no plate numbers. that would serve no purpose except further violence. ...

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anon (hwcgate.hc-sc.gc.ca): I hope the blonde dumps her loser boyfriend!

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Begging: Please please please post plate number. Please?

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Dave: Leah, getting charged with Mischief is nothing compared to aggrevated assault. I urge you to reconsider and charge him. Seriously, he's an idiot who could possibily do this to someone else.

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Leah: I see more "keys in my hand" nonsense...I did NOT have keys in my hand...what appears to be keys is actually the earbud to my mp3 player...it just happens to look like it is in my hand but is not, its just suspended in the air near my hand in...

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anon (thrillworks-v143.fibrewired.on.ca): Haha... It looks like he's gettin' his ass kicked by a chick. What a loser.

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Etc Etc: So the litter was a hamburger and bun? How is that different from people throwing bread crumbs to birds? Pigeons would clean up that "litter" in five seconds flat!

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JiNk: go back to the bit where the bridge is whith the black walls me n sum of ma m8s when the otha day n dun a bit take sum phots of it plz n put em up they r gd its got some 3c what looks kl n a wicked...

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JiNk: go back to the bit where the bridge is whith the black walls me n sum of ma m8s when the otha day n dun a bit take sum phots of it plz n put em up they r gd its got some 3c what looks kl n a wicked...

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Leah: P.S. if anyone knows the girl with the vest on, who was the first to jump on his back, please please let me know. I owe her at least a heartfelt thanks in person. And to everyone else who was there and helped out THANK YOU!!!! xo

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Leah: Hello all! I am the girl in the pics. My name is Leah and although I am a courier, I was WALKING my bike up Agusta when the incident took place. He was driving and opened his door (while driving) and yelling profanities he threw his beef patty on a...

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Jym: =v= Please, POST HIS PLATE NUMBER (and make and model of the vehicle). Their anonymity is a big part of why they feel they can act this way. Whatever the outcome of this particular case, we should all be able to know whether this violent gobshite is at...

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Chewy: I always want to pickup and throw back the butts / litter ppl throwing out from their cars. Those selfish ppl make our city dirty.

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Matt: I like what she did, but she should also be prepared to deal with this kind of response. No one likes to be shamed in public, especially assholes. I spit into open windows of cars/trucks that are parked in a bike lane. If they endanger me for their own convenience,...

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EnviroTO: Who knows how she put it into the car. She may have just lobbed it in and not even hit him which is not assault... it is littering into his car. Without knowing what path the garbage took and at what velocity it is impossible to say whether...

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rick: From what I heard (and I wasn't there, but this is from someone who was, and is there in the pictures wrestling with the driver), the driver came too close to the cyclist, nearly knocking her down. But her handlebar scratched the paint on the car. He yelled something nasty...

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Liz: "Oh lord. Don't you start on that too. Please give me ONE example of someone being murdered over litter." Don't know anyone that has been murdered over litter...but someone was murdered all because they wouldn't buy cigarettes for some underage punks.

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Chucky: she threw the food/garbage at him through his window. she's outta line.

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Blake: "Female picks up Males trash and tosses it back into Male’s vehicle, nothing happening here regarding violations throwing trash at someone is assault." Chucky, repeat after me, "The vehicle is not the person." "The vehicle is not the person." Not that the cyclist was in the right, but what she did is...

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Triadmaster : To "Mews": Red light means stop. I'm glad that the violater of it was made to pay. You need to study more, and until you do, please stay in your mommy's driveway. - TF http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BicyclistsBillofRights

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Galaxy: Mad props to her for returning the litter to it's rightful owner and mad props to those people who intervened. If id'a seen her drop his garbage back in his car I woulda laughed at his crazy ass. That dude, needs his wifey in the white...

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Guest: The bitch chucked food in his car. Yeah, he's a moron for littering, but she made it personal. He reciprocated with another personal and extremely immature move (dumping coffee on her). It's nice she's so passionate about the environment that she *seeks personal confrontation* by shoving food back into...

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Etc Etc: Actually, I don't know if it's keys or some kind of clip. In picture 3, you can see her with it in her right hand, and in picture 4, she is hitting him with her right hand (though her hand is blocked from our view by her arm). She is,...

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cockney mandem: dats east 4 ya

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Joe: Why were you taking pictures rather than helping the bike courier? If no one showed up, she could have been really hurt.

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Brixton: I read about half the comments, and don't have time to finish, as interesting as the debate may be. But the fact of the matter is, as far as the law would be concerned, it would be SHE who would be considered to have committed the first act of disorderly...

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Mews: "The side of my car got a footlong scratch by a bike courier who jumped off the sidewalk and ran a red light. Rather than whoop his skinny butt, I called the cops and followed him in the car. He was charged with leaving the scene of an accident and temporarily...

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Timichango: Jesus-h-christ - psycho motorists strike again! It's getting bloody ridiculous out there. Glad that she's ok... can't say I'm as glad about the driver. If anyone knows her, and if she needs some help getting her ride fixed up, email me and I'll do what I can...

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Mark: Messed five years in DC. Saw plenty of this kind of silliness. All I can say is choose to de-escalate.

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Sushi: Fritz SOOOOO TRUE! The first I thought was that guy must be polish. BTW bikers can be such beligerant asses as if they own the road.

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katrinar: you never know how others are going to react anymore. i think everyone here is simply saying that things CAN get pretty rough now adays. i've lived in this city for nearly 30 years, and only in the last 5 have started to feel unsafe in any way.

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Argent47: I cannot see her "punching" him with her keys in those photos, although she does appear to be holding her keys in the first couple or so, I cannot see where it looks like she actually punched him, although she might have tried, but then fell on her ass. People...

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anon (h162-040-088-098.adsl.navix.net): sombody needs to find out who that guy is and kick his ass

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Percival: The side of my car got a footlong scratch by a bike courier who jumped off the sidewalk and ran a red light. Rather than whoop his skinny butt, I called the cops and followed him in the car. He was charged with leaving the scene of an accident and temporarily...

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infamous next on the wrong site: damn

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infamous next on the wrong site: damn

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Fake: This looks completely staged.

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Etc Etc: I like how everyone glosses over the fact that she's punching him with her keys between her fingers. THAT is assault with a deadly weapon, no?

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john doe: fags...homos!!!!!!!

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?: I'm just wondering why anyone didn't cold-cock the guy the second they saw him lay a hand on a woman?

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P.: I'm glad I go into Kennsington everyday for lunch, maybe me and my co-workers will see this guy while strolling and launch some garbage his way. Hopefully he'll charge at us and provoke us into "defending" ourselves... as obviously he is a very tough person to pick a fight with...

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ViewFromAfar: My Observations: Photo #1: he is grabbing her seat to slow her down, she must have been riding. Id say he then grabbed her wheel to stop her. Photo #2: he seems to be winding up to kick her. Photo #3: she has an arm raised to defender herself or perhaps to...

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anon (MTL-ppp-156754.qc.sympatico.ca): I think maybe the 2nd chick is the drivers girlfriend??

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Chucky: [Toronto's like a haven for fucking retards with shit attitudes.] amen to that! goes for both of them.

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whatever : if you get a license to drive it does not entitle you to throw food and that cguy blows chunks

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p3rp: i dont know whos to blame as far as the drama goes, but i *do* know that this guy has some yellow-ass teeth.....

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Clay: Do we know who this chick is? I second that...

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d: im just glad no one got seriously hurt. hool: was her bike damaged? do you have more photos of this situation?

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kerry: Agression begets agression. It could have ended much worse.

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Anonymous coward: I have some sympathy for the messenger but not much. She made the first move. Yes, the guy's reaction is waaay over the top but, we're I judging this legally, I'd come down on the side of the motorist.

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hostile: Ah Kensington, I knew ye well. He's a fuckwad for throwing shit out his window and hitting a girl, she's a bitch for throwing it back and keying his car. Now that's the Toronto I know! Make no mistake, couriers can be complete cocksuckers too. Their sense of superiority and...

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reagan: Visited Oslo recently and experienced some Norwegian crime first hand -- had my camera bag nicked on Christmas morning within an hour of arriving in the nearly empty airport. Been safe w it all over most of Europe. Let my guard down in what I had been told was a...

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Roy: I've had a similar situation, with similar results (except that no women were involved). I clipped a mirror on accident with handlebars, mirror got folded in but undamaged. I wasn't quite aware that I did this. Motorist charges at me with car, I barely avoid being hit by jumping...

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innocent bystander: burnasuv: oh for the love of pete, what the hell kind of logic is that? is burning an SUV helping your environment? paint, gas, oil, plastic and rubber all send noxious toxins into the environment when burned. or is this selfish, short sighted 'logic' just a way...

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pegcity: was a courier for 18 yrs,started angry and confrontational,ended with zen like move through it all and pay it no mind style,unless no other option. car guy is over the top.courier girl is gonna be on the road ,and visible as long as she rides,i hope she'll be safe. avoid...

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sho fizzle: What's wrong with horking a great big green loogey on his windscreen? It doesn't hurt anyone (unless you've got TB), it doesn't permanently damage property, and it appropriately expresses a biker's disagreement with a situation. Loogeys are the answer, I firmly believe. In Canada, they freeze to the windscreen...

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Peter: www.metafilter.com/mefi/48623

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Buffalo: You guys have real VIOLENCE up there? It always looks so nice. Well, at least no one got shot. You guys are becoming more and mroe like us everyday, eh? :-)

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Chucky: "• Male throws trash out of his car onto the city street instead of a trash receptacle. Litter by law violation .. not too serious but do it on his front yard and he’d be…." so what is she the local litter police? "• Female picks up Males trash and tosses it...

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JP: I knew there was a reason I didn't want to live in Toronto, with pigs like him around it's no surprise the "cleanest" city in North America is looking a bit haggard. Good for her for standing up to the jerk.

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Jannx: Lets see the time line here… • Male throws trash out of his car onto the city street instead of a trash receptacle. Litter by law violation .. not too serious but do it on his front yard and he’d be…. • Female picks up Males trash and tosses it back into Male’s vehicle,...

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Adam in Mpls: *Fewer* of the Polish jokes! haha.

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John: I think the reason people assume that is that there is an SUV (or maybe a minivan) in the pictures. And what's with the censorship? That was a joke, sorry if you didn't get it.

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thisishowiride: Dang, that's messed up. That guy has some issues, and I hope he's caught.

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hool: it's interesting to me that everyone assumes the driver was driving an SUV. that was not the case. it was a small four door. to further clarify - although i did not see what instigated the event, i was told word for word by the officer at the scene,...

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lucky palindrome : He is lucky he didn't get a u-lock to his jaw. Idiot.

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Chucky: i didn't notice she was riding a fix, so the virus has spread to my brothers in the north as well? DAMN!

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Jamie: Hey! less of the Polish jokes

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Paul: I visited Oslo during the summer of 05. I witnessed a violent fight during daylight right outside a shopping mall. I saw 3 men beating 2 other men with bats. A local man which also witnessed the incident said that it looked like the men where members of the so...

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groovehouse: woah, trippy. me likes.

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burnasuv: So we don't know the whole story, but if you drive an SUV, especially in an urban enviroment, probability is you are an asshole. Thats not speculation. I mean, there has to be a statistic somewhere to back this up. Us vs them. thats right. Torch an SUV today (just make...

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Chucky: A message to Canadian messengers: recent immigrants from eastern european countries don't take getting garbage thrown at them lightly.

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simonpeter: hey pete im from belfast in ireland and i knew it was kensinton market,lol i have to say i was pretty chuffed myself,cheers

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J. Cash: I shot a man in Reno; just to watch him die. Also, litter bugs are asshats that WASTE my Tax dollars, directly hurt the value of my property, create health hazards, and are, as a rule, self-centered, inconsiderate sub-humans that should have been raised better. The fact that this guy was...

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Chucky: nobody mentioned the garbage being thrown AT her space. If this is the case then yeah by all means throw the garbage back at him. but the way i heard the story i sounded like she provokes the whole situation.

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Fritz: I don't get it. How do you know the guy is a motorist and not a pedestrian? You ever see that episode of STar Trek TNG, where the Romulans are on board, but kinda frozen in time? Everything looks like an invasion, but then it turned out the Romulans were...

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Adam in Mpls: I dunno man... he threw his shit out into her space, and she just returned it back to his space. When you're in a situation like that, what are you gonna do? Report littering to the police? Yeah, they'll get right on that. Report having coffee spilled on...

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John: There seem to be a lot of people arguing about who messed up more. Just to weigh in, it was obviously the driver, but this isn't the point. Both sides clearly made some decisions which were ultimately detrimental to their safety but this is not the point either....

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Peter: i love that our toronto contingent can tell that this is kensington, just based on the few, detailed photos. cool.

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Chucky: exactly, and for the guy that says all cyclist would be on the cyclist side and all non-cyclist would be on the motorists side, your wrong. i'm a cyclist and i see who's right and who's wrong.

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broken: Of course she did something wrong, throwing food back in his car is just as wrong as him throwing it out, it's just as much assault as throwing coffee ( ie, throwing anything at someone is assault regardless of temperature ) they're both at fault here, he shouldn't have littered,...

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Chucky: the guy is a turd for throwing garbage on the street, BUT he didn't throw the garbage at her, so why the hell did she go out of her way to pick up the garbage and throw it at him. everyone seems to be on the cyclist side but it...

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JayEastsider: Where is that Hool in Kensington Market?

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JayEastsider: Just another day in Toronto

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steelisreal: I think we have 2 types of people that are coming here and looking at this from different angles. 1. the people that believe cyclists and especially couriers are always right in these type of things. these people will defend couriers to the last days over the right to...

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Catherine Penfold-Waxman: Looks like she's skateboarding. or Parkour.

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jack: c'mon catherine, lets get back to the wall. red bricks are not natural and look at the window that is not there. must have been some kinda window.

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jack: let me out please! i dont know how i got in here but i dont belong in here. i belong out there with all you humans. im human too. help me, help me. wait! where are my clothes? someone took them off me....

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Cheesy_Member: Getting his car keyed kinda serves him (the driver) right for littering. I bet he'll think twice about that from now on. Or maybe not. Maybe he'll carry a gun instead of a bat next time. What is our city becoming? This is so so wrong, no one desrves to have...

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stud of the year: i love god but i still think iam going to hell thats kool tho god may not like me but i do

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Nic: I think any stone is one! - nice one

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toronto cyclist: your all basing it on assumptions of 'accurate' inforamtion, which Hool admits himself he didn't see how it all started. he just heard second hand that she picked up the garbage and threw it back in the car. It's quite possible when driver tossed it out his window in the...

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Jamie: adam: well at the time of writing this, this page says it has been viewed 4099 times, and it's also jumped to the top of this months list of most popular articles. nice one hool.

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mnbiker: hey this made it's way on to our biking forum in MN. as i posted in that forum. when you think about it traffic had to be moving slow that day. wait for some one to drop something out of a car window. bike over stop pick it up. find the car and...

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Jeremy: I like how the bikers say "fuck him, fuck his car" and "she's right, he shouldn't stomp her bike". So her property should be respected, while his is fair game. Someone else already summed it up - they're both fucking idiots for escalating this well beyond reason. He shouldn't have dumped...

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Dear Shyzer: "I'm asking for one example. A specific example, not generalizations. I refuse to believe that there's a trend or people simply killing perfect strangers for looking at them the wrong way. It's simply an urban myth." People commit random acts of violence for no reason at all, all the time. Last...

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UsVSthem: Throwing your garbage on the streets is assault on us all. Fuck that guy, fuck the interior of his car, fuck his paint job! He could have easily thrown his garbage in the back of his SUV. Back in that huge expanse of wasted space. He should fear throwng garbage...

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adam: peter.. how wide of an audience? i can only imagine the amount of hits this thread has gotten

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hool: peter: thanks for the support. i don't publish anything in internet space with intent toward a select audience. i know very well that once something is put online, it's out of my control, so the narrowness or wideness of the audience is beside the point. my point...

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Peter: so. was it sorta like in "easy rider", when they took acid in the cemetary?

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Peter: im with hool. be wise. respect. comment here. keep it here. these were posted with good faith to a select audience. this entry has blown up with tons of publicity, and been viewed by a wider audience than expected.

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Greg: glamorous

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Greg: sun baked bricks are nice to lean on as it gets dark.

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hool: to the previous commenter: please do not print these images and "plaster them all over the GTA". no, i cannot stop you, but i can sincerely request that you do not do so. this would be a further escalation of this situation, which is not warranted. feel free...

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Greg: i one time took lsd in this cemetery. my girlfriend and i. we were trippin'.

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Gonna, can't stop me.: This guy doesn't pay the dues for flippin out I gaurantee his wife will force him into an anger management program.....she'll have too when his pic (and hers) with his name is plastered all over the GTA. I've got my own all set up, but for fun How About A...

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Sam: Shyzer I can think of an example; A fellow was beaten to death, tortured 3 hours, burned and raped, sodomized with a stick and stomped on so hard a boot print was left in his face. He had laughed at an acquaintance because of the way the acquaintance vomited after...

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Cherri: Whoever said that yelling at him would have taught him a better lesson than giving him back his garbage obviously doesn't ride a bike in the city. Even when people almost hit you with their car and you yell at them they are more than willing to scream back at...

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Mike: I've picked up litter and chased people down to give it to them. Granted, I didn't toss it through their open window. But still: fuck cars.

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jethro: they couldn't have picked a better spot for fighting. the background colors look like an army surplus store.

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kevin: as a bicycle commuter myself and someone who has had their share of run-ins with moron drivers i say the cyclist probably has enough pent up anger against just about anyone in a car to justify what she did in her mind. its a war out there on the...

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machry: suburban vs. urban. you just blew my mind.

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endlessxmike: What would you do if someone dumped coffee on you? getting assaulted definitly justifies damageing property and damaging property does NOT justify that asshole assaulting her. what SHOULD you do if someone messes with you? get 3rd degree coffee burns and cry about it? ...

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machry: I would hope it was like the scene out of Anchorman w/ Jack Black.... i.e. the tossing of garbage out the window caused a wipeout on the bike. That's the only way I can see it justified.

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empresswu: suburban vs. urban

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machry: mr. flagg: I think she's the animal's (ex?) girlfriend... actually... check out that ROCK!!! she married the animal!

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JayMTL: Just to add another dimension - the thing I miss the least about being a courier is the road rage. Having people swerve at you in their cars sucks - but what sucks even worse is all the times people threaten your life just by not paying attention or by...

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weave: i'm not the athletic type, but isn't baseball a little out of season?

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i saved latin: holy crap, fuck that guy!

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Mush-: actually, they're not too far and few in between, because prevalence of occasions like this increases when nothing is done in anyone's defense. as a canadian living in america for school, i've seen a lot of senseless shit. american's think nothing of it and move on with daily life....

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elias666: two idiots fighting in the street like idiots. i don't give a shit that the girl is riding a bike, asshats ride bikes and drive cars, as this BS clearly demonstrates. I do think it is funny that that dude seems to be...

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anon (219.93.44.71): fine..

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shyzer: That is a good example, thank you. Although I maintain that things like that happen FAR too few and far between for any of us to be concerned about them in our day-to-day life.

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sice: first i heard that sane was hit by a train doin tunnels, and i also heard that he was killed in a car accident. But i never knew that he commit suicide RIP SANE

in response to Sane Smith: Puttin' the Green in Greenpoint

kenobi: Perhaps you've missed the story of Matti Baranovski getting beat up in a North York park over cigarettes ? hmmm ?

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shyzer: still don't see an example here. And I'm tired of all the "OH NOES! EVERYONE HAS A GUN AND WILL POP A CAP IN YOUR ASS AS SOON AS LOOK AT YOU!" I once had a cop tell me that the people in my neighbourhood would, and I quote, "slit your throat...

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CYNIC: What's she got in her hand in the third photo down? Something with prongs...

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abbey: "...regardless of what she said, she should have been smarter, people have been murdered over LESS."

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shyzer: For littering?

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abbey: can think of plenty, like I said read a newspaper. Go check up on Caribana for the past 2 years, see why 2 people were murdered. Once again, have a great night.

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shyzer: I'm just asking you to back that up. If you can't think of one single occurance, then you probably shouldn't have said it.

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abbey: So I am going to sit here looking for one single occurance where someone was injured or killed for something that is deemed minor? Obviously I stated my point for a reason, I have seen people injured because they stepped on someones new shoes, but thats irrelevant. Any teenager in...

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mindme: The first rule of being a biker activist: make sure you have an escape route before you take on an ape behind the wheel.

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FLAMEWAR!: ITS ON!!!

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shyzer: Buddy, this is the internet. We're all here to argue. I'm not denying you your right to an opinion; I'm engaging it. Part of having an opinion is defending it. I'm asking for one example. A specific example, not generalizations. I refuse to believe that there's a trend or people simply...

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abbey: Buddy. This is the internet. If you like it or not I have a right to my own opinions. I'm not here to argue them with you or anyone else. People have been killed/injured for looking at someone the wrong way, stepping on someones shoes, having a ipod or any...

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shyzer: Life's too short to be afraid of nutbars. Though I won't defend the keying of the car, I don't think she intended any sort of bravado by returning his litter. Assuming she did it with any decorum (which she may not have) I actually applaud her sticking up for herself and...

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shyzer: Ok, show me one example of someone being murdered for less than litter.

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abbey: Read again, did I state that? The guy had a baseball bat in his trunk didn't he? You are picking the wrong person to argue with, whats the point?

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shyzer: Oh lord. Don't you start on that too. Please give me ONE example of someone being murdered over litter.

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scotty: how long is it before Chrome Bags uses some of these photos as promotional material?

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abbey: Seriously though, regardless of what she said, she should have been smarter, people have been murdered over less.

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nobody: Maybe she was polite about it - we don't actually know. If it was, say, an empty coffee cup that he dropped on the ground, and she picked it up and dropped in in his window saying, "I believe this belongs to you," I'd say that's a totally appropriate response....

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nex: shyzer-- Or a nutbar with a baseball bat.. or a nutbar with a knife.. or a nutbar who might just start up the van and try to run you over.. I could go on but my point is, don't bother provoking people into a situation that will easily escalate. After the "hey buddy...

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shyzer: also, re: using her bike, it's possible she tried to get away and he chased her, or she couldn't - it looks like they're in Kensington, which can be pretty dense and difficult to navigate, even on a bike, at times. We don't know the whole story. From here, you can:...

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Catherine Penfold-Waxman: I'm glad Hool wasn't broken.

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adam: im glad hool's camera wasnt broken

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shyzer: nex... Yeah but if he's an idiot, then a simple "Hey buddy, I'm riding here," could still set him off for all you know. Like you said, people get beaten to a pulp for less. Not that I don't think it might have been wiser for to jot down his license...

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sarah: What the fuck!!! It is also a misogynist taking it out on a woman, fuck that shit, I'd cut that man-bitch in a heartbeat. I usually always have my sizeable flip on the inside of my chest strap, a girls got to pack these days.

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nex: We've seen people get beaten to a pulp for a lot less by idiots who obviously don't give a rats ass about you, the individual, or anyone else. I'm not saying that one should not voice ones opinion regarding tossing out garbage; a simple "Hey buddy, I'm riding here, please be...

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Gumble: Doe's any body know hippy from $ala$

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Gumble: What do you think of SLS?

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shyzer: ILifer-- That's right. From now on I'm going to be doubly careful not to squeeze past anyone or look at them the wrong way or do anything at all that they might not like, because They Might Have A Gun.

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bikesafe: I hope the police "busted a cap in his ass" when they pulled him over.

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Myke: I like old warehouses and facades.

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nex: After having some time to digest this during my dinner (there's a pun for you.. digest.. dinner... get it?), I think that she's awfully lucky that she didn't get a..umm... how do the kids say it.. "cap in her ass" I believe is the correct terminology? Really, who knows WHAT that...

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mindme: She should have used her bike. At least toss the food back and zip away, down a one way street. I don't know what she thought she was trying to do, all 98 lbs of her, waiting around to see the ape's reaction.

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