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Sunday, April 17th 2005
Previous Day :: Next DayBen: Yep, I'll nick my dad's camera elaine: actually, you know, london suburbs are very unlike other places in the world. get your camera out and give us your perspective, why doncha? elaine: ... which brings me neatly back to Ballard. maybe his liking for the suburbs came in part from how weird his life had been up until then? God, Empire of the Sun was such a fab film, as were both that book and the other one about his childhood. ... jeeff: yeah, let's see hanoi photos!
i grew up in the suburbs of a suburban city, a place just about as white-bread average as you can imagine. as soon as possible, at 18, i moved away to the big city (the biggest one readily available). i lived there for 7... Ben (poster of above article): Thankyou for all your comments, they've really changed my perspective on things. To be honest, I was half-expecting to be patronized. But you've all been completely straight with me, which is a rare thing for a kid of my age. So thankyou for that as well. My older sister travelled... elaine: sucha nice article, and such a pants comment! although i can understand the pleasure of the drawers, i hope you enjoyed them elaine: wow! ian sinclair obviously is da bomb, I clearly need this!
you will be glad to know my improvements are small, incrimentally small and punctuated by backdraughts so violent you can stand up and not break the top of the water you are drowning so hard, so I will not... Marc: "After Lights out for The Territory, a man sent me an X ray of his brain tumour. He'd superimposed it over a map of London and was trying to heal himself by walking out its routes through the city." --iain sinclair elaine: how to be a londoner - on a precedent of 2000 years standing, just let your return ticket run out. If you're here you are a REAL londoner, beause that is the nature of a port. A hundred languages, and not so much as everybody is in the right, as... Marc: re: "i'm from there"-wanderlust
many americans dream of moving to san francisco- whether it's the 60s or the internet or the beats or an anachronistic fancy for gold rush/chinese railroad coolie days.. it's the responsibility of every SF denizen to go out of their way to provide crashspace to new converts... elaine: By the way, lots of people of all ages complain constantly about where they live - or about where I live, for better or worse reason. My friend Lucy lives in Edinburgh and pines for Hackney, she says Edinburgh is a cultural desert. I heard a tale the other day... Marc: oh man that was my lame anonymous post, misshitting the enter key..
i grew up in suburbias and love cities now.. suburbias are like mosquito ponds, thick stagnant things that insects flock to to breed- the eggs hatch and spread out to other places, then they come back to die..
great people... Jamie: Broadmindedness (if thats a real word) is not limited only to those who live in or those who are raised in an urban environment. I grew up in british suburbia, and live currently in the semi rural settings of lincolnshire. Thanks for taking the time to not only trawl through... Jamie: Broadmindedness (if thats a real word) is not limited only to those who live in or those who are raised in an urban environment. I grew up in british suburbia, and live currently in the semi rural settings of lincolnshire. Thanks for taking the time to not only trawl through... elaine: ackroyd's main idea, apparrently, is that london is like a volcano and some bits are fast flowing and some are fixed, and that over 2000 years there are areas which have stayed the same, for instance, there are still whores on the street at aldgate, much as there would... elaine: Ian, so you don't work for the tourist board, then. I loved your exposition, imagine if that was the kind of information you could get for the asking, just in general in life? Marc: Re: Sinclair, Ackroyd..
yeah if you google for sinclair, ackroyd.. "heavy-duty version of ackroyd", "highly derivative work 'Hawksmoor' based on sinclair's poem".. havent read ackroyd myself but i love a good literary pissing match!! Vauna: Re: Hack the City
Having personally experienced the driving in Mexico with you, I relived the noise and aberant driving behavior of individuals in Chicago, San Francisco and Guadalajara while you were at the steering the car and fighting for survival and I was in the back seat clad with my... elaine: Re: north - incidentally, did you know, the french have a saying about 'losing north', i dont know if it's about total madness or what the boundaries are of the metaphor, but I like it elaine: no, I must read him, I seem to have managed not to for some reason. I have been told recently that I must read downriver as well. what i always loved was soft city by jonathan raban, and then i read all his american books too. I think I always... Marc: just add some javascript that checks for the two fields having values- and if they're both blank, messagebox "yo!".. Marc: Houston as Babylon of the oil empire.. a karmic blackhole built on the graves of a million dinosaurs and plants. so much energy in one place spent on desecration and the subsequent care and feeding of petro-resurrection men + women. and when it rains it floods like a sumbitch. Marc: Re: finding no north
elaine have you read iain sinclair's lights out for the territory? about having walkabouts thru london.. reading bits of it right before bed makes for amazing dreams. pretty amazing writer. Marc: Re: Strange City
how perfect is it that these pics are black + white? Marc: Re: eye of the storm
"well don't heal tooo quick if it keeps you writing so well..."
-some jerk
seriously, this piece is my favorite of yours (so far)- when i first read it i was floored! hope you get out more with your camera- the canal gasworks made me miss london so... Marc: Re: Texas 5am
"oh dallas you shine with an evil light..
don't you know that god stays up all night?
how'd you turn a billion steers
into buildings made of mirrors?
why'm i drawn to you tonite?"
-silver jews elaine: i have always found drivers here very kind... but then I am blonde elaine: ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you are sooooooooooo meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeean! elaine: thank you for your good wishes, it means a lot to me. sometimes i improve, then there is dreadful skiddy backwardness, which comes as a shock, no matter how often it happens. starting to post stuff here has been a lifeline sine: just the way the edges are rendered in the upper left, and the sky. crazy blue glass box. amazing. Marc: Re: Hack the City
i also have to say that while i havent driven in london, i did do a critical mass or two there and jesus cristo are your drivers vicious!!! okay this was may day and thousands of people whistling and throwing shit, but still.. sine: 4th pic down....the corporate center. FUCKING AMAZING. elaine: this is Bethnal Green, and, for you Jamie, it is E2. It makes it easy for me to see where i am in the AtoZ, I just look for the circles...I love the canal, you can walk all the way to the river, or go up the river Lee, which... elaine: Fab! I love this. Also the idea of finding cut thrus as a version of hacking. There are people who never do that, and, horribly, people who can't do any kind of urban orienteering because they have no north sine: such a dustcatcher! jeeff:
thanks for the translation. when were these pictures taken? Marc: Re: canalside gasworks
elaine that canal is very special i visited a friends' loft there a couple years ago and those gasworks were full up. they had some free internet access on the roof that we got to check out the view from. what's that neighborhood called again so i... sine: yes! please heal quickly. jeeff: whoa, how'd i become "jeef"? jeeff: Re: Strong Shoulders
sorry to hijack. about the photo, it boggles my mind how much rebar goes into modern structures, like bridges and things. amazing, and kind of primitive it seems sometimes. jeeff: or make the name a mandatory field? people can put anything they want in there, retaining anonymity, but if it's blank it doesn't post. or changing "post your comment" to "submit your comment" or "submit the comment above" might help, as elaine suggests. sine: marc welcome to citynoise!!! we love you! Anonymous (Toronto-HSE-ppp3740605.sympatico.ca): Re: Crip/Blood Graffiti: Washington Heights yall are in this blood crip shit,it must deep in new york.In Montreal we have it to.You no niggas step on you who and ask you if blood or crip.IM NOT IN THIS SHIT! AT ALL STEPHAN A .P: Re: nOTHING SPECIAL MONTREAL CANADA SAP: Re: MONTREAL CANADA Harlem bloods: Re: Crip/Blood Graffiti: Washington Heights Anonymous (Toronto-HSE-ppp3780182.sympatico.ca): Re: Crip/Blood Graffiti: Washington Heights For god and ulster and the queen too!!!: hey rebel king billy ain't a homo like you, you jus think he is cos you'd like to get it on wit him if he was gay and northen ireland is and always will be british not fuckin fenian thats the republic your thinkin of ya wanker!!
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