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Bushwick '77: When the Lights Went Out

- upfromflames - Monday, July 2nd, 2007 : goo

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Thirty years ago this month, the eyes of the nation focussed on a darkness. Across New York City, where gleaming towers defined the night sky, the lights went dark. It was three days until electricity was fully restored to the city.


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When the lights went out at 9:30PM on July 13th, looting soon broke out in the poorest areas of all five boroughs. (its still the only 5 borough disturbance in the city's history). The degree of looting varied widely, but it was at its worst in Bushwick, Brooklyn, where fires accompanied widespread looting. The city had seen rioting before (after MLK's assassination in '68, most recently) but nothing like this.

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When the lights came back on, there were two questions foremost in the minds of New Yorkers: how and why? How did this happen, and why did people react the way they did? This is not the place to fully answer these questions--I've attached an online bibliography below. But what I have done in this post is the create an impression of the cause and effect of the blackout looting in Bushwick, Brooklyn.


What is takes to complete this post is you: Your memories, your opinions, your ideas.


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"The crowds on Broadway in Bushwick seem to possess a special kind of hysteria as the evening wore on. the spirit appeared to lead them as much toward destruction and burning as toward looting. "I found it hard to believe," said Captain Driscoll of the 81st Precinct in Bed-Stuy, who was on Broadway that night and thought the crowds displayed a kind of madness..."the strongest feeling I had was of disbelief. I've seen looting before, but this was total devastation. Smashing, burning...as if they'd gone crazy."

from "Blackout Looting" (Ford Foundation report) by Curvin and Porter, page 41:

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"At one point two solid blocks of Broadway were ablaze. As the trucks sped along the avenue, looters pelted them from the el tracks with rocks, bottles, bags of Goya beans. Cops tried to disperse the crowds at the various fire sites and protect the firemen so they could do their job. After the firemen abandoned one truck to seek cover from the objects raining down on them, a few cops climbed aboard, and turned their water cannon on the crowd. The force of the stream sent looters skipping as far as half a block. Later the cops tried clearing the street by fastening a metal chain between two patrol cars and driving down either side of Broadway..."

from "The Bronx is Burning" by Jonathan Mahler page 204

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the most awesome damage by far occurred [along Broadway] Of the 134 stores looted in that section, 45 of them were damaged by fire, many burned to the ground. Commercial life here was certainly ailing before the blackout. But afterward, walking down what was five years ago a thriving business street, a shopper could go for for blocks and find absolutely no merchandise for sale. For four blocks, four blocks, [from Gates to Grove], every major store still doing business at the time of the blackout was looted clean, and a majority of them were also burned.


from "Blackout Looting" (Ford Foundation report)by Curvin and Porter, page 41

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Overhead the elevated Subway line closes out the sun, giving an added sense of desolation to the street. Hollowed out store fronts stand bleakly along rubbish-strewn sidewalks, their iron gates wrenched apart as if by a giant hand. One only supermarket was open a month after the blackout in a fifteen block stretch. Except for rush hours, the avenue is nearly deserted.

from "Blackout Looting" (Ford Foundation report)by Curvin and Porter, page 41

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From the NYTimes: July 15, 1977
Social Overload:

The blackout violence demonstrated that the city was a victim not only of an electrical overload, but a social overload; that there are thick connections between the East Side air conditioners and the idle poor sweltering uptown...

[we deplore the losses to merchants and communities]..but having said that we must begin to understand that in some measure these scars are self inflicted. We did not spend enough of our ingenuity and our affluence to to solve the problems that the riots of the 1960's made evident; we continued the overload. It is a sad but profoundly important lesson for New York--and for the nation.


and summarizing letters in reply:

"Bah, looters are born, not made!"


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When the power fizzled in July 1977, most people did the same things they had done when the power had failed in November 1965, and would do again when the power failed in August 2003: They hosted blackout parties, bagged patients on respirators, directed traffic, carried water to the elderly and inform, cooked and ate food they feared would spoil.

In 1977, unlike 1965 and 2003, many people looted, and afterward people argued about why. But the vast majority of people--in every neighborhood in the city rose to the occasion...

...It was no easier to know what people did not loot in 2003 than they did in 1977.

from Blackout by James Goodman, page 226.

Thanks again to Randy Barron of FDNY's photo unit for releasing these rare photos, all taken on Broadway on July 15, 1977.

map and mattress carrier photo courtesy NY Times

This article has been viewed 57665 times in the last 7 years


upfromflames: 2nd Jul 2007 - 19:34 GMT

As for reading more:

the most concise source on this subject is the Blackout History Project, which has all relevant documents in PDF format. Check it out!

blackout.gmu.edu/transition.html

colavitos ghost: 3rd Jul 2007 - 22:21 GMT

do you have any old photos of bushwick that weren't included in the exhibit at the historical society? or do you know of anyplace where they may be on public view (either on line or in "real life")?

upfromflames: 3rd Jul 2007 - 22:37 GMT

Sure. The Brooklyn Historical Society Library. They have hundreds of them, mostly 19th century or earlier--though they include a few by that Brooklyn (Williamsburg/Bushwick) shutterbug Eugene Armbruster.

They are not on public view, but you can access them in their in house data base program. Good luck!

718-222-4111 [[www.brooklynhistory.org]]

Kat: 6th Jul 2007 - 00:34 GMT

These photos are amazing. My mom lived on Broadway (near DeKalb) during the blackout, and all she can remember is glass shattering and burning.

Joe S.: 6th Jul 2007 - 22:29 GMT

I remember shopping there with my parents as a kid in the 1950's. These photos are depressing!

Dee: 9th Jul 2007 - 03:11 GMT

I remember this very vividly. the looters were running down my block with televisions, diapers, stereos u name it. We sat on my stoop just watching. Now I'd be petrified but then well it was our home so u thought nobody would harm u. I hated part of the 60's and all of the next 2 decades that my parents stayed there. Broadway was a nice place to shop and it was ruined. They destroyed their own shopping areas.
St Josephs church used to have an Italian feast that had to sop cause they pulled the money off the Saint. To me it was all really depressing
I could tell u a million stories about Bushwick. The Causo's kids say they loved it, I don't believe it, if they did then God bless them.
I guess they liked walking through the johnny pump on a hot day, the streets flooded with water. Don't tell me their weren't rats in those
burnt out lots. OH and did the Mayor really remember you? looks like the south Bronx got the new housing not us we got shit.

Dee: 9th Jul 2007 - 03:15 GMT

These pictures just make me angry and depressed. My poor mother had to live in this shit. NO PIZZA DELIVERIES NO CHINESE FOOD DELIVERIES NO DELIVERIES OF ANY KIND. WE looked like the poor bastards that had no money and couldn't move. gates on windows no trusting anyone anymore
not a good way to live it wears u down mentally and physically

Susannah: 9th Jul 2007 - 11:46 GMT

I remember it- I was at my father's in Bayridge (joint custody)... Everyone was hanging out...talking...sharing what they had. But some people with shops were guarding them with rifles.
But my mother was working as a visiting nurse in Brownesville or Red Hook(?) - don't really remember. The subways were not working she had to walk home to Park Slope in the dark.She said you could hear the pounding feet of the groups of looters running. The 77 blackout and 911 are two events I will always remember as being turning points in history.

EvilGentleman: 25th Jul 2007 - 17:38 GMT

Wonderful article. A lot of history here that needs to be remembered. I hope you will continue to post articles here, even after the Up From Flames exhibit is no longer running.

upfromflames: 25th Jul 2007 - 18:23 GMT

Thanks!

And you can bet I will continue, EG.

With my new position as sociology and mapping teacher at the Bushwick Academy for Urban Planning, there will be more history to tell, and a future for my students to help make for our community.

Tune in for more here at citynoise!

anon (cache-dtc-ag08.proxy.aol.com): 31st Jul 2007 - 22:01 GMT

I was about 6 when this went down. I recall my brother coming home with some Joxs sneakers boy was i happy. I seen it all from the 15th floor of my project window. (Summner houses one block away.)

Luis Acevedo: 3rd Aug 2007 - 22:31 GMT

During the last couple of days I stumbled upon the website for upinflames. I couldn't believe my eyes. I am 28 and have lived in bushwick my entire life. I grew up on Wilson Ave and Covert Street and Now live on Palmetto Between Knickerbocker and Irving. I have to thank you guys so much for your hard work. This neighborhoods history is one that must be told. My kids never believed me when I told them stories of how My sisters and I grew Up. I remember very clearly hearing the sirens and smelling the smoke. I remember seeing other kids playing on mattresses in the lots that were filled with bricks and debris. I really believe no one cared back then. If you showed these same pictures on CNN now there would be a public outcry and things would have to be done. I was never allowed to leave my parents railroad apt on covert st. I remember understanding why and knowing how to stay alive on the streets even at a very early age. Today I consider my kids to be naive in that respect. My wife grew up in Red Hook and she understands very well what I mean. My kids go to dance class and little league. They really have options hopes and dreams. We had nothing. Somehow we made it. The few of us who did, did so because our parents would not allow us to be lost in those lots and burnt out buildings. I consider myself a student of history and I am thrilled that I can show my kids this website to illustrate where we came from. I am going to make my way to BHS this weeked. I can't thank you guys enough. I have some old pictures my self that I wouldn't mind sharing and I would love to see any pictures of Covert street or wilson ave during those days.

Luis

upfromflames: 3rd Aug 2007 - 22:48 GMT

Luis: Please do share. I am so glad that Up From Flames could mean so much to you.

But in a way, aren't you happy that your kids don't have to know what you went through???

Either way this is a great chance to let them and the rest of us know about that, in both words and images.

Peter: 3rd Aug 2007 - 23:47 GMT

seconded, luis. id love to see your photos and/or hear your stories... i live on near the park, and love hearing stories about the neighborhood...

Luis Acevedo: 4th Aug 2007 - 00:27 GMT

Please send me your e-mail addresses and I will scan some images as well as send you the ones I have on my pc now. As for stories there are so many untold. Have you guys heard of the Transit Police woman who was killed at the Wilson Ave station in the early 80's or the story behind Maria Hernandez park. The following is copied from the officer down memorial page. Officer Lozada was shot and killed while attempting to arrest a robbery suspect. She and her partner were in plainclothes patrolling the L Line when they witnessed a suspect snatch a piece of jewelry. The officers gave chase but were split up. Officer Lozada's body was found three hours later in a parking lot. She had been shot in the head with her own weapon while attempting to make an arrest. The suspect was later apprehended and sentenced to 32 1/2 years in prison.

Officer Lozada was the first female officer to be killed in the line of duty in New York City. She was assigned to Transit District 33 and had served with the New York City Transit Police Department for four years. She was survived by her mother and brother. The reason this stands out to me was because I was about 3 or 4 and I was getting a haircut when this happened. At the sound of the gunshot my barber sliped and nicked me on my neck. This was the barber shop on Wilson and Decatur. Lares barber shop to be exact. And Maria Hernandez was a neighborhood heroine that used to get involved and called the police on local drug dealers. One morning she was getting ready for work and was shot through her window. I can remember seeing on the news that night her husband kicking the garbage cans down the block in anger when he found out she had died. My sister went on to teach at P.S 123 across the street from the park. My other sister is a Social worker for the DEpt of Education and I work for the DOT. We've seen a lot.

Peter: 4th Aug 2007 - 00:51 GMT

luis: email anything you like to editors@citynoise.org and they can post it here for you, or just look at it if you prefer not to post.

i appreciate your time and contribution here, and only wish everyone in the community with your kind of cred would speak out here.

spread the word?

Luis Acevedo: 4th Aug 2007 - 00:55 GMT

Thanks I already did. I just sent the links to my sisters and my neighbors. Where could I find pictures of wilson and covert street. I noticed you had a fried over at the FDNy photo unit. Could you please inquire about a fire that happened on Wilson ave between covert and eldert street. It must have been some time between 84 and 86 the Box number should be 814. He would know what that means. Thanks again.

Peter: 4th Aug 2007 - 01:03 GMT

upfromflames might be able to help you with that one... hes the resident bushwick expert around here...

if you like, the editors will pass along any info to him youd like to share. see above email addy.

upfromflames: 4th Aug 2007 - 04:21 GMT

Sure. I'll do that for you in the next week. You can reach me at [[upfromflames@gmail.com]].

Randy: 30th Nov 2007 - 11:01 GMT

I remember the July 13, 1977 blackout if it was yesterday, i was 21, me and my brother had brought a brand new car that we shared an oldmoble 98 regency, we loved that car, we was riding around checking out the girls, it was a very hot day living in Harlem, we came up stairs i think close to 9pm, my parents was in the living room chatting i went to my bed room to open the window and i can see Yankee Stadium from the window they was having a game that nite then i notice the lights blinked in the house, then all of a sudden all the lights went out in the house and outside, people started chanting 'BLACK OUT BLACK OUT , we was all in the house talking about the black out, we was looking for candles, me and my brother decided to go back outside to tour the city in its dark madness,we wrote the city and about 20mins into the blackout the looting started, you can hear store windows breaking, people throwing bottles in the streets, the city went wild with the looting, gates what being pull down to the ground and people running out the stores with tv sets , stereos, 8 tracks, clothes etc, it was a shame how they was carrying on, we stayed out until about 11pm then we came back home, it was getting too dangerous out there, thats a nite i would never forget and it was a year i would never forget, so many things happened in 1977, that was a magical year with Star Wars in all, the SON OF SAM running around killing people, i must admit that was the most fun i ever had in my life that year.

Angel... Sunset Park Broolkyn: 21st Dec 2007 - 18:35 GMT

I was real young maybe 13 yrs old,during this black out, when the lights went out me and a some group of friends got together and tagged up the nieghborhood, atleast we weren't looting. I remember a lot of negative things going down that summer, like the Son of Sam, crime was crazy and my ex'girls Uncle was murdered in Red Hook Brooklyn, until today no ones been arrested for the shooting. I guess the only good thing that came outta that summer was the mother f'*#ing NEW YORK YANKEES....

ME: 25th Feb 2008 - 02:30 GMT

All these looters back in 1977 were they neighborhood people or people who came into this country legal or illegal for a better life. Looks like they got it. Its still going on. Some people just want to take the easy way out. Take from others instead of working for it.

Steven: 20th Apr 2008 - 22:40 GMT

This was an amazing night. I lived on Troutman Street at broadway and Myrtle, right in the action. I was 16 and was amazed and scared. I remember walking the block to Broadway the next day, and just wondered why people would do this to their neighborhood. I went to a school that was mostly white, and remembered the kids calling our races in Bushwick the dumbest people in the world. Sad.

andre hayes: 13th May 2008 - 14:31 GMT

this sort of happen 3 years ago but less violence

Jamal Washington Brownsville Bk: 31st Aug 2008 - 01:58 GMT

Wow, i was about 17 yrs old when this took place. I grew up on Chauncey and Broadway. My dad quickly took us out of the nieghborhood. It was some hot days that followed. Reggie Jackson did his thing though, brought the Yankees to the World Series... RIP DAD

Joe Drexler: 8th Sep 2008 - 18:54 GMT

I was born in Bushwick and lived on Himrod St. between Central and Wilson Aves.from 1962 to 1974.I enjoyed reading the blackout article but must say that there was an approximate 17 year downward spiral that culminated in the summer of 1977.The blackout and ensueing destruction that took place happened to be noticed because the event itself was widespread.Certainly there was alot more destruction in a shorter period of time but Bushwick residents were experiencing these problems on a daily basis long before the blackout and long after.My formative years were defined amidst a culture of violence,fear and fire.My mother was rescued from a fire while pregnant with little old me.As a young boy fires stabbings,junkies and muggings were the entertainment and R rated movies seemed phoney and somehow not real enough."I wonder which house will burn tonight" ."I wonder if my apartment will be burglarized today" those was the questions in everyones mind.Bushwick was burning way before 1977 thats just the summer when everyone noticed.P.S.later in life I became a firefighter.Was it a coincidence I'll always wonder.

Old School: 24th Aug 2009 - 00:02 GMT

I remembered the blackout.Thank Gog we had a very strict mother. We were already in the house and when we noticed the lights did not come back on we didn't even consider going back out because we lived in a very rough neiborhood during very rough times. My family had strong Catholic values and we couldn't understand why people burned down and looted their own neigborhood. The next day I remembered people showing off their new stolen sneakers as if the won lotto or something. I am so glad I no longer live in that environment. It took me a very long time to overcome tragic and bad experiences during that era. There was a man Name Braxter Burgess who was a beacon in the Granite st. and Furman Ave. area he single handedly created a softball little league and kept many young boys off the street. If anyone knows his email address or wher-abouts
please post it. I would love to say Hello to him !!!! To this day my brother and I still play softball.

Walking Brooklyn: 28th Sep 2009 - 02:58 GMT

Living in Williamsburg, I have been doing a lot of walking all around Bushwick lately and almost cannot believe these photos. It's like it all took place in a different world and a different lifetime. It is so sad.

anon (165.155.192.90): 4th Nov 2009 - 17:21 GMT

Wow this is crazy!.If i was alive around this time i would stay inside because i do not want to get killed =)

Cbklyn4u: 11th Dec 2009 - 11:33 GMT

I cannot express the sentiments that swelled within me upon seeing these photos. I have lived on MacDougal St. and Broadway all my life.. I vividly remember this tragic point in my life. An area that was so vibrant, for the community, was then turned to nothing. Such a sad case considering that those who suffered the aftermath, were the very people who did the damage.
I now see Broadway slowly up and coming, pray God that I may once again see it to be a bustling shopping area again for the community.
The theatres, Dept. Stores.. I can go on and on..
Bring em back...!
Thank you so much for puttng this page together.. we cannot forget what once was, and how people could change the face of it all

firefly: 24th Feb 2010 - 16:54 GMT

Just stumbled on this site. Lived on Gates Ave between Knickerbocker and Wilson, later moved to Wilson Ave between Hart St. and Suydamn St. Left in 1963 after my mother died. You know, the neighborhood then was railroad rooms, no air conditioning. We sweltered in the summer and froze ine the winter. The tenements were all cold water flats. The law came into existence in 1961 where everyone had to have heat. My parents worked in factories in the garment industry. We had very little but the area was clean and safe. People washed their stoops on Saturday and windows were always shiny and clean. My mother always chanaged curtains, washed blinds and kept the house so clean. But it wasn't just my mother, it was everyone who lived in the neighborhood (you were gossiped about if you didn't keep your place clean.) Well, it seems to have all fallen apart. Everyone says it was the poor. People were so poor and thats why. I don't know anyone poorer than we were. Hand-me-down everything and macaroni every night. No one gave us free breakfasts at school. No programs. Parents took care of their own kids cause we were their responsibility, no one elses. I remember the feasts at St. Joseph's church. The bakeries, the stores on Knickerbocer Ave. Star street park. It was a safe neighborhood and a clean neighborhood. Poverty doesen't cause destruction. I think it's a welfare mentality and all the destruction of the human spirit that comes with it. I don't remember anyone on welfare when I was living in Bushwick. There were some people who wer on "home relief" but it was considered a terrible tradgedy, like someone whose husband left them with small children. But in those days families stayed together. I guess there are mamy reasons for the fall of Bushwick but I don't think it was the fire or the blackout.

tata: 29th Apr 2010 - 00:05 GMT

I lived in 95 stockholm between central ave also in 35 mytle ave. and I remmber summer time and people walker down the street if finder someon you known you would hang out;also no one talk about the club that willi colon and hector lavon and many more ready salsa ( puerto rican) music play on saturday night this in 1972.

anon (c-67-175-211-81.hsd1.il.comcast.net): 6th Jun 2010 - 16:03 GMT

As usual, a bunch of niggers acting like the animals they are.

Bb2ru: 10th Jul 2010 - 14:34 GMT

does anyone have pics from Halsey Jr HS 296 from 1972 or 1973 I attended then and lost all my pics especially the year book. my teacher was Mr. Fazio who taught math and Mr. Jacques homeroom teacher. I played trumpet for a short time in the school band, the other guy who played trumpet in the band was Carlos and Sharon Bell was the sax player, she was great. Good old days in Bushwick. God Bless, thanks.

Mary; 29th,2010@3:50pm: 29th Sep 2010 - 19:53 GMT

My siblings and i grew up-in brooklyn,i graduated from buswickh.s 1969. In 1975 i returned back to brooklyn with my family, by then i had traveled over seas and hawaii, lived on military base for almost 4 years. I got married on evergreen ave 1970. my first born was born in brooklyn jewish hospital n 1971. 1977 i was truly shocked,my family coulnot believe that the city had turned out to be so destructive. We could go into any stores and purchase things on credit, people in the community trusted each other before that one horrible night-july 1977.OUR WORLD WAS TURNED INSIDE-OUT,AND WAS NEVER TO BE THE SAME AGAIN. I MISS THE WONDERFUL TIMES WE HAD GROWING-UP IN BUSHWICK. HALSEY 296, PS.299 AND OF COURSE BUSHWICK H.S....AND THE BUSHWICK METHODIST CHURCH.BUSWICKWICK,DOWNTOWN BROOKLYN WAS WONDERFUL.

jay: 10th Oct 2010 - 02:25 GMT

i grew up on woodbine between evergreen and central went to ps 299 and then jhs 162 willoghuby great times wonderful memories i was 20 years old in 1977 hanging out in knickerbocker park . i remember like it was yesterday .Lights out and havoc and panic terrible night that was .but on a good note does anyone remember greasy louies on broadway 5 CENT ROOT BEER MUGS, FRIES ,HAMBURGERS , HOT DOGS after getting of the gates train station

Di: 10th Dec 2010 - 15:07 GMT

I live in Hope Gardens on Knickerbocker ave bet. Gates & Linden. I remember walking to IS 383 on Greene ave. Before these buildings went up there were several blocks of abandoned lots. Does anyone have photos of what these blocks looked like before the lots?

anon (dt171ne0.tampabay.res.rr.com): 11th Dec 2010 - 19:19 GMT

MARGIE

I so sadly recall the blackout. I grew up in Bushwick went to Bushwick High School hung out in Bushwick park Knickabocker Park an so on. Gee I even remember people were selling T-shirts that said "I survided the 1977 blackout" I had one Broadway was NEVER the same. Thanks for sharing. ellamargie@yahoo.com

Bb2ru: 21st Dec 2010 - 15:25 GMT

Remember Pedro's grocery store on knickerbocker between gates and linden, also the bakery on Knick corner of grove?.

Raquel: 31st Mar 2011 - 18:24 GMT

does anyone remember a black family by the name of Toneys, lived by 295 evergreen bt. harmon n himrod around 1962-1965 i believe. Family includes Tommy Lee, Ricky Allen Toney,Renee and Gail. Ricky had a best friend named Skip and a girlfriend by the name Kandi not sure of the spelling but she was high yellow with light colored hair. I think she lived in bedstuy with her mom n was an only child. Kandi was my mother. Im interested in any information on family/friends/schools whatever good or bad. Please email me at armani.waters@yahoo.com. I will greatly appreciate it. Thanks ~ Raquel

Bb2ru: Raquel where was Skip from (nationality)?

david: 18th Nov 2011 - 20:42 GMT

i grew up in bushwick from 1949-1960.it was my home,a real home at the time we moved i had no idea what was going on and i was to young.had i been older i would have fought the changes that chased people out .its easy to claim raceism maybe i am but look what happened.a lot of work by the city ,state could have fixed many of the problems that bkack people were haveing with out destorying a beautifol place but to many fears and hate caused this.its a shame nothing has change much

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anon (ool-457496c6.dyn.optonline.net): 30th May 2012 - 02:16 GMT

@Bb2ru this is Raquel and no just that he was a black male a pimp and a woman that went byu the name of Candy if any help let me know thanks.

Ron: 10th Jul 2012 - 00:21 GMT

Third world savages doing their THANG... They should have been shot dead right there.. Do you doubt that many of the third worlders would do the same in a second if given the chance??? Thank GOODNESS that rancid shithole is turning more WHITE!

anon (host-114-208.metropcs.net.141.174.in-addr.arpa): 7th Oct 2012 - 07:49 GMT

Not sure but he was a pimp in resoponse to Bb2r

Bb2ru: 26th Oct 2012 - 12:53 GMT

Sorry Raquel, didn't know him, I knew several Candy's from Hart St. and Myrtle Ave and another from Dekalb and Myrtle both latinas from PR. use to hang out in front of the liquor store and bodega on Hart and Myrtle Aves. with a guy name blood drove an antigue white rolls. Augie, Joe Papo, Conga, Mickey, mundo, just to name a few.

raquel: 6th Nov 2012 - 07:20 GMT

to Bb2RU CAN I EMAIL U OR YOU CAN EMAIL ME AT RENEEDOLLY22@GMAIL.COM

raquel: 6th Nov 2012 - 07:21 GMT

to Bb2RU CAN I EMAIL U OR YOU CAN EMAIL ME AT RENEEDOLLY22@GMAIL.COM

Bb2ru: 8th Nov 2012 - 11:46 GMT

raquel I sent you an email to your g-mail address

raquel: 21st Nov 2012 - 00:18 GMT

@bb2ru can i post a pictrue and u tell me if i resemble any of the candys please.

raquel: To Bb2ru Candy is my mother please help

raquel: To Bb2ru Candy is my mother please help

Bb2ru: 28th Nov 2012 - 16:22 GMT

Raquel go ahead post the pic I'll let you know if I know her

anon (host-114-208.metropcs.net.141.174.in-addr.arpa): 9th Dec 2012 - 05:33 GMT

I can't it not allowing me to.?I'll email it

Raquel : @Bb2ru it's not allowing me to post

Bb2ru: Raquel send it to Bbugalu@msn.com

Raquel : Ok.Thank u. I sent it.

Raquel : @Bb2ru her name is Christina payne .

anon (c-76-99-157-172.hsd1.de.comcast.net): 31st Jan 2013 - 17:40 GMT

some or most of these picturesare not myrtle or marcy or a lot of brooklyn. i grew up in that neighborhood from 1945 left in 1977 visited until about 2 years. whoever posted these pictures had the wrong streets and everything else.

anon (c-76-99-157-172.hsd1.de.comcast.net): 31st Jan 2013 - 17:40 GMT

some or most of these picturesare not myrtle or marcy or a lot of brooklyn. i grew up in that neighborhood from 1945 left in 1977 visited until about 2 years. whoever posted these pictures had the wrong streets and everything else.

Bb2ru: 2nd Feb 2013 - 15:46 GMT

thats Broadway under the L train where the J and M trains ran

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