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dfwtiger: 7th Feb 2007 - 19:10 GMT

It is a memorial in DC....I think that what you get...if anything...is up to you...the viewer. I can not tell someone what to get but I can share what I was thinking. When I took the photo....I was interested in the broad range of emotions associated with the word sacrifice. In addition, I was engaged by the capture of something....an event....person...and so on. This of course lead to a thought of what it means to capture something...like these guys...in film...or bronze. Who decided this was necessary...and why.

jack: 8th Feb 2007 - 16:58 GMT

esmer, your probably too young to know what this is about so i'll explain it simply to you. since the inception of this nation we have always depended upon men and women to fight for this country. the revolution was our retaliation against taxation and control by england and so we decided to fight them and claim our independence. we won. but we continued to have wars every 20 years or so for different reasons. most was for real estate others were for freedom, ours and other americans we considered inferior because of skin color or eyes or last names, and religions. mostly, wars were inspired by politicians and people with a lot of money and the worst, people with ideoligies based on God, religion, purity and insanity. it's been 230 years of fighting wars, in and out of this country. and so we come down to that statue of those three soldiers. they were boys like you who enjoyed playing ball in the parks, going out with girls, and just having plain old fun but this thing came along out in a foreign country that jfk felt we should help some people continue their freedom but the people in the northern part of the country wanted to take over. it was communism against freedom. it could also have had a lot to do with politics or money but whatever we ended up coming to their aid as military advisers. it was a jungle, rice paddy type of war with innocent people being used as personal bombs. there was a lot of drugs and booze being used by our soldiers (as in most times) plenty of women to be had at a cheap price and the thought that we were defending freedom. basically we were. basically we were not going to win. we were running an army with young college grads and old men wearing three peice suits. they ran the army and not the generals, which is generally what happens when you have to deal with politicians with gloated egos. anyway, we eventually pulled out with a truce and our tails between our legs, and the so called enemy took over control of their nation and today we are beginning to become friendly with them again. in this country, almost 50% of americans wanted to end that war and bring our boys back home. in actuality many young men did not want to get caught up in the draft (that was a system where the government could automatically bring in young men into service against their wills) and so many of them left the country. there was much anger in this country and much division (much like the war in iraq) that pitted people against each other. so that statue is in memory of the boys who died serving their country in vietnam and i knew some of them, i played ball with some of them, i was one of them, i was a soldier and i never liked war. i would serve my country because i was a soldier. all soldiers hate war. all soldiers love their country. all soldiers will do what their country demands them to do. and its ok to say you are against war and especially this war but do not say it if its only because its your political party's statements. make your statements based on what you believe, and remember, do all you can for those men and women out there in the armed services, they just want to come home and play ball in the parks. that statue is a memorial to soldiers.

jack: i hope i didn't over do it.

dfwtiger: Jack....Thanks man....perfect.


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In addition, I was engaged by the capture of something....an event....person...and so on. This of course lead to a thought of what it means to capture something...like these guys...in film...or bronze. Who decided this was necessary...and why. jack: 8th Feb 2007 - 16:58 GMT esmer, your probably too young to know what this is about so i'll explain it simply to you. since the inception of this nation we have always depended upon men and women to fight for this country. the revolution was our retaliation against taxation and control by england and so we decided to fight them and claim our independence. we won. but we continued to have wars every 20 years or so for different reasons. most was for real estate others were for freedom, ours and other americans we considered inferior because of skin color or eyes or last names, and religions. mostly, wars were inspired by politicians and people with a lot of money and the worst, people with ideoligies based on God, religion, purity and insanity. it's been 230 years of fighting wars, in and out of this country. and so we come down to that statue of those three soldiers. they were boys like you who enjoyed playing ball in the parks, going out with girls, and just having plain old fun but this thing came along out in a foreign country that jfk felt we should help some people continue their freedom but the people in the northern part of the country wanted to take over. it was communism against freedom. it could also have had a lot to do with politics or money but whatever we ended up coming to their aid as military advisers. it was a jungle, rice paddy type of war with innocent people being used as personal bombs. there was a lot of drugs and booze being used by our soldiers (as in most times) plenty of women to be had at a cheap price and the thought that we were defending freedom. basically we were. basically we were not going to win. we were running an army with young college grads and old men wearing three peice suits. they ran the army and not the generals, which is generally what happens when you have to deal with politicians with gloated egos. anyway, we eventually pulled out with a truce and our tails between our legs, and the so called enemy took over control of their nation and today we are beginning to become friendly with them again. in this country, almost 50% of americans wanted to end that war and bring our boys back home. in actuality many young men did not want to get caught up in the draft (that was a system where the government could automatically bring in young men into service against their wills) and so many of them left the country. there was much anger in this country and much division (much like the war in iraq) that pitted people against each other. so that statue is in memory of the boys who died serving their country in vietnam and i knew some of them, i played ball with some of them, i was one of them, i was a soldier and i never liked war. i would serve my country because i was a soldier. all soldiers hate war. all soldiers love their country. all soldiers will do what their country demands them to do. and its ok to say you are against war and especially this war but do not say it if its only because its your political party's statements. make your statements based on what you believe, and remember, do all you can for those men and women out there in the armed services, they just want to come home and play ball in the parks. that statue is a memorial to soldiers. jack: i hope i didn't over do it. dfwtiger: Jack....Thanks man....perfect. 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