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Dangerous to Walk Around Brooklyn?

- Jayne - Friday, May 26th, 2006 : goo

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Hello.
I am considering taking a job in that would require me to travel all over each day. Is it safe for me to be in the bad parts of during the day? Everything else about this job is great, and so is the salary! I am a white female in my mid-20s. Thank you!

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Peter: 26th May 2006 - 14:46 GMT

no its not dangerous at all to walk around , especially in the daytime. its not 1970 anymore, you know, nor the crack-wars of the 80s ;)

Jayne: 26th May 2006 - 15:06 GMT

Thank you Peter! My family and friends are telling me that walking around in Brooklyn by myself would be dangerous.

Peter: 26th May 2006 - 15:14 GMT

i live in . ive lived in many parts of , and all have been ok. its not any worse than any other part of . where are you from?

Jayne: 26th May 2006 - 15:25 GMT

i live on eastern but will be moving to .

anon (ool-457387f4.dyn.optonline.net): 26th May 2006 - 15:52 GMT

Yeah i'd be careful, there's been at least 50 reported rapes in that area in April alone. Trust me I am a cop. I wouldn't walk those parts, especially being a female!

Jayne: those rapes were during the daytime?

Kakumei: 26th May 2006 - 16:56 GMT

I'm a 20 year old white female and I live in Brooklyn (Flatbush) - I go around to Coney Island, Crown Heights, Marine Park, Williamsburg, Sunset Park, etc by myself during the day _and_ night and I've never had a problem worse than people asking me for change. The only part I stay away from is the Bed-Stuy/ENY area unless I have a reason to go there - and even then, if you're careful it's not a huge deal.

jack: 26th May 2006 - 17:03 GMT

jayne its bad anywhere bad people are. look at the kids getting killed by stray bullets. lets put it this way, a guy has a better chance than a pretty white girl. peter probably looks like an undercover cop and they stay away from him. but peter is correct, coney is better today than it was in the 70's and 80's. because of the families there and increased policemen. and jayne, i think your pulling our chain with the job proposal in coney island.

Jayne: Jack, It's "you're", not your.

Mitch Waxman: 26th May 2006 - 18:09 GMT

Marine Park is really nice, coney island a 20-30 minute drive away (belt pkwy is alway traffic plagued, so learn the local street way to go). Standard NYC logic applies- trust your instincts & if a bell is going off listen to it. Coney has a couple of gangs, but they're not interested in you as anything else but a target of unwanted affection (hurrm). Don't let racial preconceptions of who is and who isn't dangerous rule your perceptions, Bklyn is a class (upper, middle, working, poor) based culture, with race figuring in mainly during the name calling part of a fight. You actually have more to worry about from the rich kids and their consequence free lives than the poor ones. As you may have guess, this is my old hood you're talking about.

Amanda: 26th May 2006 - 18:09 GMT

Im a white girl, 23, and I moved to Brooklyn from the suburbs of Massachusetts. I have been all over Brooklyn, in whats considered the "bad" areas, and I honestly think its hysterical that people are afraid. Unless you're walking around LOOKING lost and scared and uncomfortable, no one is going to bother you in broad daylight. Unless you're offended by the occaisional whistle or "hey baby", youve got nothing to worry about. Brooklyn is a great area, I love it, and have NEVER felt unsafe at any point since Ive been here, including walking back to my apartment from the subway at all hours of the night.

anon (cache-dtc-ac06.proxy.aol.com): 26th May 2006 - 20:06 GMT

I grew up in Marine Park. It is a safe, residental, working class area where a high population of police and firefighters live. Not pretentious, and with a nice middle-income suburban vibe.

Most places in Marine Park are a two fare zone, but if you are working in Coney Island, it shouldnt be an issue -- especially if you have a car. Parking is pretty available in the area as well.

For the most part, Brooklyn isn't really the scary place people make it out to be.

Jayne: 27th May 2006 - 02:49 GMT

Thank you all for your comments. Keep 'em comin', please!! The more opinions the better. Happy Memorial Day Weekend.

C.: 27th May 2006 - 08:30 GMT

Walk tall and with a purpose and you can get through anything (in heels too!).

jack: 27th May 2006 - 13:16 GMT

jayne, thx for the gramatical come back, i try to watch my grammer and spelling when i type but most times i just fly throught it. mitch seemed to wrap the whole thing up. its true, it does not matter what race you are, there are bad people everywhere. and mitch, where in coney did you grow up?

sally: 27th May 2006 - 16:09 GMT

coney island is fine by day but i've seen some really, really bad things go down there at night.

ian: 27th May 2006 - 18:42 GMT

It's funny how terrified white people are of black neighborhoods. Most of the time it is genuine, honest fear. Such a rare delight.

anon (cache-rtc-ad06.proxy.aol.com): 27th May 2006 - 22:38 GMT

As a life-long (more than 50 years) Brooklyn native there's no place I'd feel afraid to walk in the daytime, nor was there even in the 70s and 80s.

force: 28th May 2006 - 21:05 GMT

nah nah nah.. yall got it allllllllll wrong sweet hearts.... 1st of all.. ghettos n slums never change.. white civilizations will never change.... coney island is ghetto.... u aint realizin it... cuz u focusin on sumin else.. if u focus on gangs n bad shit... u will notice alotta shit dat been goin down n u neva knew bout it.... i left wen i was 12yrs of age.... i knew NOTHIN bout gangs... i know dat 1 was red another was blue..... dey do bad shit n slash niggas... but i was 2 caught up in pokemon n powerangers.. n godzillas 2 understand.... i left linvcoln place. 2 go to texas.... now look.. im surfin on da net n im seein like eye slashins bein reported in newyork..... gangs/.. people nation folk nation... latinkings... n all dis shit..... i was really star struck... so aint nuin change... u jus gotta focus on dat shit 2 see wat happens.... my brother tells me every fri on coney island bloods come out 2 punk lil kids n slash n test knowledge n shit.... i aint even know dat.. so aint nuin change.... u jus focus on sumin else

Max: 13th Jun 2006 - 17:14 GMT

How about Brooklyn Cruise Terminal area? Is it safe? Do you know nice hotel nearby?

T Bagz: 7th Jul 2006 - 20:55 GMT

Its funny what everyone here thinks of Brooklyn. Yall bin listenin to too much news and rap music. I liv in Bed Stuy and seen lots of tragedies but unless you come round here at night tryin to hustle aint nothin gonna happin to ya. Just be smart cuz violence is everywhere, dont frown at no one and if you really scared, hop in a cab. and dont listen to force cuz he jus flossin. you dont see crips or bloods wearin red or blu anymore unlless they kids. So dont worry bout a thang and welcome to Brooklyn baby girl!

blondie: 16th Aug 2006 - 14:07 GMT

Brooklyn is not the best place to be but I won't let go of a good job offer just because I had to travel through the area. I'm not from the area but everytime I go to visit relatives I can't walk the street alone. Every guy young and old bugs the shit out of me. Like hey baby and I have even had some follow me, If you are attractive the guys in that area will drive you crazy. Sometimes I do feel threatened. Just be careful and be aware of your surroundings.

Peter: 16th Aug 2006 - 14:40 GMT

for what its worth, ive rarely observed the above-mentioned behavior in brooklyn, and i live here. maybe out in the hood, though. who knows. but brooklyn isnt all hood.

wackojacko: 16th Aug 2006 - 20:15 GMT

Check the police blotters of NY papers. Brooklyn, especially the bad parts, IS bad. Even in the bad parts, what are the chances of something happening? Pretty low. Chances still higher than in the suburbs? Damn straight. I have friends who've been mugged at gunpoint in Park Slope, which is supposed to be safe. I know cops in East New York, and it IS REALLY BAD. No reason for a white girl to go there other than to buy drugs.

Other bad spots: East Williamsburg near the projects, Bushwick, Brownsville, Bed Stuy.

Are you safer during the day? Yes. Are you "safe" compared to Long Island? No.

BROOKLYNusmc: 22nd Aug 2006 - 01:53 GMT

don't be scared, jus keep ya head up and everythang will be aight ;)
welcome to CROOKLYN!
"IF YOU CAN MAKE IT HERE, YOU CAN MAKE IT ANYWHERE!" ha ha haaaa

anderson: 22nd Aug 2006 - 03:34 GMT

i been to brooklyn before i never had problems there i find kool
but i really dont about living there

Keith: 25th Aug 2006 - 18:54 GMT

My roomate and I are moving from Buffalo to Brooklyn next week. We were originally looking for a place in Manhattan, but there was no way we could get co-signers that made enough cash for us to get approved, so we found a place in East Williamsburg. It's on Flushing Ave near the Morgan station off the L train. I hear the area has been gentrifying a lot and has been getting a lot safer, and the people I saw around during the day seemed perfectly normal, but do any of you know how that area is by night? I can't help but worry, especially since I'm such a night owl and I'm always going out.

I'm just glad that I'm a big guy... 6'4" rocker type dude, lol. I'm sure there are lots of lowlifes out there that would mess with me anyway, but it couldn't hurt, right?

don't worry about it!: 29th Sep 2006 - 20:33 GMT

Coney Island is the safest neiborhood in brooklyn. I lived here for all my 15yrs and it's great. I go by myself alot of places and never had a problum. about the gangs their wannabes. thier are no crips, bloods,latin king or for movie go'ers no warriors. The biggest threat for coney island is the next hurricane.For "force" what coney island were you living in? "force" is the example of a wannabe. oh and i'm white so the race issue isn't a factor. Coney island is getting to be very diverse.such as russians,pakistanis,hispanics,african-americanand some asians.

Nug Flex: 1st Nov 2006 - 04:10 GMT

Why don't you just get yourself a gun and if you ever feel threatened you can pull it out and start shooting it into the air or, if need be, at someone.

anon (c-68-54-201-162.hsd1.fl.comcast.net): 4th Nov 2006 - 00:47 GMT

brooklyn is a good place, so ya people should stop talkin like that of brooklyn iight

whois: 4th Nov 2006 - 21:56 GMT

yeah brooklyn iz a good place... all east new york, brownsville, bed stuy, east flatbush, flatbush, crown heights, bushwick, east williamsburg and even williamsburg, we all in da house...

dela: 13th Nov 2006 - 06:04 GMT

I'm a white girl from N.Jersey, 24. I've been going to Brooklyn for many years to visit friends and family. I love Brooklyn, nice place to visit. If your worried just get a roomate and live in Manhattan. www.craigslist.com - to find a roomate.

c.: 24th Dec 2006 - 05:14 GMT

How is the area?
Atlantic Avenue 11233 area code
I am a white female petite and cute.
Am I going to be killed if I go there alone?

anon (localhost): 31st Dec 2006 - 13:22 GMT


How is east flatbush?
I want to buy a coop around there, is it safe?

dereck : 21st Jan 2007 - 06:34 GMT

I lived in brooklyn all my life . its relaxing and its fun . i have many friends here.youll get used to it.Some people exagerate about brooklyn

anabelle isabella: 21st Jan 2007 - 06:36 GMT

brooklyn can be danerous. so you got to be careful. but you getuse to it . when you live there.

giselle ashy: 21st Jan 2007 - 06:43 GMT

there are no bad parts in brooklyn.youll understnd it if you lived there like i do.but be very careful.you got watch your back once in a while .other than that relax

Donny Pricks: 17th Feb 2007 - 21:39 GMT

you got nothing to worry about ive been going to brooklyn for as long as i can remember n the only 2 places i ever really had a problem was bushwick and bedford stuyvesant

dominick: 18th Feb 2007 - 08:40 GMT

the italian neighborhoods are always the safest such as bensonhurst and dyker heights. Ive never had a problem in either.

want a job: 23rd Feb 2007 - 05:10 GMT

What type of neighborhood is Crown Heights? I visited today, felt a little uncomfortable in daylight. I am thinking of taking a job off of St.Marks. Can I (young female) walk to the subway alone???

upfromflames: 23rd Feb 2007 - 14:35 GMT

Crown Heights is partly Chasidic Jewish, partly Caribbean black, two communities who have conflicted for years over the territory. just check out the flags on the houses to see who's who.

Its also got the biggest parade in N.America, come labor day.
www.carnaval.com/cityguides/newyork/ny_carn.htm

But yeah, its crime is way down, and is a safe area.

Chuck from FreshDirect: 6th Mar 2007 - 04:03 GMT

Brooklyn is alright -- I dropped a few loads there in my time. My kind of town.

timdog : 17th Mar 2007 - 17:17 GMT

im black and im 19 i live in fot greene brooklyn I love it out ther when im ther it is all good but when i leave peaple get shot stapped arrested all that crap.brooklyn is good I love it there some gangs scare me like when i was in flatbush i went up the block and i saw many crips I was blood at the time

westcoast LK: 18th Mar 2007 - 12:38 GMT

one love to all my familia y gente no matter where your from or what nation you ride for, from the boogie down bronx to brooklyn its all love....5 alive ADR!!!!

racer: 22nd Mar 2007 - 05:14 GMT

What do yall think about East New York? Is it a bad area to be walking around in the daytime?

Sonray: 28th Mar 2007 - 01:45 GMT

i wouldnt go into bed stuy,marcy projects area,east new york area in daytime if i were you

Sonray: 28th Mar 2007 - 01:47 GMT

i live in bushwick its ight there in daytime occasional murder and rape more robbery really

upfromflames: 28th Mar 2007 - 03:14 GMT

Police statistics would not exactly back you up. Don't believe everything you read.

jamills: 6th Apr 2007 - 20:51 GMT

don't walk in bed stuy and brownsville at night because you will see bullets flying

iman: 6th Apr 2007 - 22:02 GMT

well i just moved to brooklyn 3 months ago, it is not what i expected. i heard all that stuff on tv like jay-z saying that it was the type of place you'd get shot at, but there are some nice people here. i haven't had any problems since i moved here, and i was living poor on long island.

robert: 8th Apr 2007 - 22:16 GMT

I know yall moved off the subject of ConeyIsland but some ppl talkin like its a nice place. Maybe if you stay by the amusmentpark you will be okay but if you go into places like Searise and Graveson its a different storie. Im only 14 and i lived there my whole life and shit, but im young and some of yall older but its already temptin for me to turn blood. Its not a good place anymore ppl shoot there gun for no reason i seen shootouts and alot of other things. So for ppl to say Coneyisland is safe thats not true because if it was safe why did my brother and cousin get jumped by bloods right across the street? Why do my other brother carry a gun with him and i even seen a blood in brod daylight with his 9mm in the chineese resturant acting like its nothing. They will try you but aslong as you keep it moving and mind your buisness trust me you will be okay. If you move to Coneyisland then try to move in a house over by the beach or in seagate is cool to. Just stay away from west33rd and places like that because its not good. They got us little kids selling there drugs and everything so if you have kids just be careful.

iman: 9th Apr 2007 - 00:13 GMT

to robert: man i'm 15 and i grew up around bloods. believe me man, if your gonna join anything, make your own small time clique, i'll garantee you that you'll fight a lot, but not get killed, i've seen so many bloods get wasted pretty badly. the bloods are a good connection though. and don't use a gun, show them that your tough by fighting. on second thought, keep one just in case, but only use it if you really need to. by the way, i live in brooklyn, but my clique is still on l.i., i've only lived here for 3 months, but if you get into any of that stuff, we got your back man.

robert: 10th Apr 2007 - 21:50 GMT

Thanks man, but ConeyIsland have mad clicks in my hood and shit. They got nfo im sure you heard of them niggas and some other ones that i cant recall at the moment. I live in Searise and its funny because the bloods never ran Searise until a couple years ago and now they taken over. I try not to worry about it because i know all the dealers and shit so its not that big of a worry but u still have to watch your back. Dont trust nobody you know but I just wanted to tell those ppl who was like its safe in ConeyIsland that its not as safe as there making it seem. Its not the worst but if it keep on moving the way it is ConeyIsland is gonna be one of the badest hoods.

iman: 10th Apr 2007 - 22:08 GMT

i hear that man, but if you ever need our help, i got some blood connections, as in i just have some friends that are bloods. and my clique could help you out too, we've never lost a fight, or a rumble. by the way man, i live in bensonhurst.

dougieESQ: 11th Apr 2007 - 02:23 GMT

there is no east williamsburg...it is bushwick.

If you haven't lived in NYC before you will find Coney Island to be sketch unless you are riding the Cyclone. Also, if you are a Brooklyn newbie you will NOT be comfortable in Crown Heights, East NY, Red Hook, Ft Greene, Bed sty or Brownsville.

And for people that say something could happen anywhere...well you are right. You could get mugged or beat up in Soho or the Upper West side but you are WAY more likely to be messed with in Bushwick or Bed Sty. Don't be an idiot. Check it out for yourself before you move anywhere.

robert: 11th Apr 2007 - 23:26 GMT

Ok well i can get what yall are saying. Yea I know where Ft.Greene is i got alot of family that live there real shitty place in some areas.Oh and Bensonhurst aint that by Lafayette HS my brother went there and to Grady. Well shit thers nothing to get scared of its just that ppl are dumb now ya know. They think there untouchable and trust me its not true because whenever my uncle come around they turn to pussys. IDK what he did or said but there scared of him for some reason lol. Well do you think ConeyIsland is getting worst or Better in a way?

dougieESQ: 12th Apr 2007 - 18:47 GMT

I think with all the changes coming to coney island in the next few years people will say its getting better but I think it will actually be worse. Luxury lofts and condos do not make a neighborhood.

robert: 13th Apr 2007 - 20:42 GMT

I agree 100%. I dont think Brooklyn is a borough for something like that and Coneyisland is always gonna be a piece of shit no matter what they try to do. People from places around ConeyIsland is gonna mess it up and its not gonna last. I seriously think its gonna be a waste of money because the purpose of it makes absoloutly no sence. Nobody wanna go there and then when they drive 5mins down the road there back in a ghetto or hood. ya know

iman: 13th Apr 2007 - 21:06 GMT

robert: yeah man i go to lafayette hs. by the way, if c.i. is bad already, you're right, it doesn't matter if it gets worse. just as long as it doesn't spread to some people. don't let it get to you, you seem like a smart kid. you should go to college, do good in life, and look down upon the gangs of coney instead of watching out for them. and i'm not saying this as a hippocrit, the clique i was in was just my friends and i watching out for each other from bloods and other gang members.

damn: 14th Apr 2007 - 20:03 GMT

Is bedford avenue around 7th street dangerous man? im a chinese kid and i dont wanna dir

robert: 15th Apr 2007 - 22:59 GMT

Iman: yeah i hear you out though. im not goin to college or no shit like that i dont think its for me. i just wanna be a automechanic because i like cars and shit. i guess maybe i can find a college for cars and shit like that. something like ITT tech or something i think i'll like

Paradox: 18th Apr 2007 - 21:53 GMT

It's interesting to hear what people think of Brooklyn but overall it's not as bad as it used to be. I'm not saying that crime is all gone but the city has changed a lot. All the notorius people from the crack / gang era are either dead or locked up. I myself grew up in Crown Heights (Crime Heights) so I was at the center of everything. Bed-Stuy (Do or Die) to the north, Flatbush (The Bush) to the south and Brownsville (Bumsville) to the east. Prospect Park was on our west side.
Really the only parts of Brooklyn that still has issues are where there are a lot of projects. But thats anywhere in New York.

Peace

Paradox
http://www.myspace.com/paradoxworld

iman: 18th Apr 2007 - 22:56 GMT

to robert: that's cool man. you just gotta do what you want to do. live cool man. brooklyn for life bro. holla.

brooklyngal: 24th May 2007 - 02:35 GMT

I am surprised by how many people respond to the question: is Brooklyn safe? Brooklyn is HUGE. It is a city. Asking if it is safe is like asking if New York City is safe. Is Chicago safe. Is San Francisco safe? Like any urban area is has good and bad areas and good and bad people. That said, I don't think there are areas anywhere in New York where you can't walk around in the middle of the day.

Bazz: 4th Jun 2007 - 20:38 GMT

Hi everyone, how are ye today? I will be living near Sunset park(44th and 4th) for 3 months, does anyone know how safe the area is, what type of place it is? Thanks by the way I'm coming from Ireland so I have no knowledge other than its a residential area, so anything would be appreciated

Peter: 4th Jun 2007 - 23:26 GMT

yo bazz, i used to live right in that neighborhood... 45th and 4th ave, actually. that area is great. be sure to walk up to 5th avenue for the good shopping, diners and amazing produce. also head up in that direction to see the actual sunset park. the views of manhattan in the of the afternoon are outstanding. youre close to the R train, and you can hop the N express and transfer to a bunch of other trains at . youll be about 40-45 minutes from times square via the subway so be sure to charge that ipod and pack a few books. the commute loses its novelty after the first 10 times or so... though the views from the are superlative.

if you have a camera, take some shots and share them with us here. even though i live only minutes away now, i never get down that ways, so id love to see the old hood.

theres some great graffiti down there, too, between 3rd and 4th ;)

Bazz: 6th Jun 2007 - 20:19 GMT

Thanks Peter, that sounds brilliant. We wanted American culture and it looks like we're gonna get it! The commute will be no problem, I don't think we'll be going into Manhattan much other than work cos it sounds like everything you would want is there! Thanks a million for all your help

PhillyGuy83: 7th Jun 2007 - 05:14 GMT

People exaggerate so much about New York that its sickening. If you are from a picket fenced suburb and want to know if you'll be safe in some inner city neighborhood then more than likely you shouldn't be going there because you'll probably feel very uncomfortable and will stick out like a sore thumb regarless of your race. A suburbnite thinking that inner city people are out just waiting to rob them is as realistic as the chances of an "urbanite"? getting driven out the suburbs by a mob. Trust me, you aren't that important. Act like a tourist anywhere and there will be someone there waiting to take advantage of you.
...Oh yea, people exaggerate New York's crime rate so much it's insane. Same with Newark, NJ and Camden. Like people in those cities are all on the corner 24/7 like they don't have bills to pay too. I grew up in Northern NJ back in the early 90's late 80's when New York was actually a bad city. It is faaaaar from that now and 10 times much cleaner. A little too clean for my taste(its just not the same anymore true NYers know what I'm talking about). But yea New York has really improved and gentrification is in full effect. If you're worried about a rough city then Philly is the place you should worry about not New York. Atleast New York has attractions, Philly is just a big disappointment. Literally, 90% of the people here couldn't tell you where the Liberty Bell is or know a thing about the city's history. Outside of Downtown and the university districts, its pretty much neglected.

NAME: 19th Jun 2007 - 00:59 GMT

Brooklyn is a great place to be. I lived here since i was 2 and have seen many die, many leave, and many goin nowhere with there lives. 1st b careful about where u tell people u live. 4 xample If u go to East New york and some1 tries 2 press u and asks u where from tell dem EAST NEW YORK. Cuz if u tell dem Brownsville dey gon jump or shoot yo ass. Da gangs b gettin confused now cuz dey rep by set. If u blue from a different area you will get hurt. Not 2 much of a color and if u do no bandanas,flags or fitted with b's or c's. If u see a lot of people sittin around doin nuthin stay away. you might walk in2 a shootout or dey might wanna jump u. Da best things are 2 get 2 know people in ur area and always have sumthin 2 do. Dat means if u want 2 have a barbeque do it in the back or sumthing. Dont let people think ur doin nuthin cuz theyll wanna do nuthin wit u. Dat leads 2 trouble just be careful dont fight about everything but also dont be a pussy. Dis is da best way 2 be safe in some areas of brooklyn

Lakim: 19th Jun 2007 - 02:29 GMT

I'm from brooklyn born and raised straight outta the section of East New York it's one of the the worst sections in brooklyn we had bloods, crips, latin kings exc. And it was broken down by sets such as E.P.G, P.I.C, CODE 31, P.I.P, A.B.G, R.B.C, PLATINUM ANGELS exc. for example if you where blood - e.p.g you'll probably have beef with the bloods who where p.i.c it was getting ridiculous i've seen people get jumped countless amount of times i've seen a raping, countless gang wars, robberies, jumpings and meny more that I don't feel is safe for me to share.I now reside in a nice neighborhood in philadelphia. But I heard the the crime rate did go down by 2004.

milton: 5th Aug 2007 - 21:21 GMT

i grew up in brooklyn and it was terrific brownsville was a great place

KB: 12th Aug 2007 - 16:40 GMT

ive heard alot of bad stuff about brownsville out of all places in NY...is it really that bad?

Ganja joe: 16th Aug 2007 - 20:07 GMT

im moving to coney island soon, how hard is it to buy buds? like r there alot of under cover popos or what, hit me up and blaze on...

M.A.V: 25th Aug 2007 - 19:57 GMT

iv been living in in coney island graveson for 5 years. it wasent to bad. when i moved to east flatbush the first thing i saw was that the nieghbohood was runed by crips. iv been living in east flatbush now for anyear and it seems bad. mostly everyday theres gunshot or fights. this shit is serios. who ever wants to move over here pick a different place.

njdude: 30th Aug 2007 - 00:14 GMT

HEy

I am new to NJ and need to see someone on Ross St in Brooklyn. Is it safe?

becks: 1st Sep 2007 - 08:54 GMT

M.A.V. where are you living? i'm thinking of moving to e. flatbush, is it real bad? looks pretty family to me. you think it's just street by street, some parts better than others? or is it just really fights and gunshots all over? would b great to hear more -- before i move. thanks.

Dav: 25th Sep 2007 - 21:31 GMT

Hi,

I'm french and I want to visit New York.
I'll live for twelve days near fourth avenue in Brooklyn, is it sure? Some friends of mine said the security is bad but when I read this forum, it seems enough sure. I have to be careful but now, where we don'have to be careful?

Thanks for yours answers.

BathBeach: 11th Oct 2007 - 18:38 GMT

In December of 2006, I moved from Salt Lake City to Manhattan. I lived there around 66th street for half a year. [rent: $2,500 a month]. After I had been here a while, I realised that Brooklyn is not as dangerous as I had thought. I now live in Brooklyn in the Bath Beach area and it is mostly Russian and Chinese. That's a very safe area, in my opinion. I am a 6'4" male so I guess I'm not a representative sample but I am able to go nearly anywhere any time of night. By coincidence, my brother is visiting me and he got a hotel on Utita Ave. That seems a lot more hood-like and more dangerous. However, I have yet to encounter any problem in all of NYC or Brooklyn.

Qari: 16th Oct 2007 - 20:33 GMT

I have a question I am going to be moving to the Glemore plaza, in the Brownsville Area. is that a bad area like a shooting every day or week or a lot of muggings in that area?

huh?: 16th Oct 2007 - 20:47 GMT

Is there any single neighborhood in the world-- much less Brooklyn-- that actually has "a shooting every day"? Where do people get their ideas of Brooklyn from? It's not like it's fucking Darfur there or something. Geez.

FromAmsterdam: 2nd Nov 2007 - 16:31 GMT

Me and 2 friends are going to new york for 3 weeks in januari. me and another one are white and the 3rd one is hispanic looking. whe should be allright by daytime in brooklyn right? (the 2 guys im with are big :P)

anon (c-67-167-208-183.hsd1.il.comcast.net): 2nd Nov 2007 - 17:21 GMT

If you have to ask, don't go..there another job out there somewhere.. maybe selling insurance to white girls in their 20's....maybe move to another state? What a question...

catherine: 3rd Nov 2007 - 06:56 GMT

my best friend and i are looking for an apt in brooklyn. neither of us are stupid, but we are young (20). naturally, my mother is worried that i won't be safe if i move too far from manhattan where i would be taking the subway a long distance. i have been living in the city for a year and a half and have never had any problems, except being occasionally hit on, because i act like i know what i'm doing so no one bothers me. she is still deciding if she wants to let me move. i will be paying, but i want her permission anyway. how can i convince her to let me move and that it isn't the 70s anymore. she has an idea that brooklyn is unsafe because she lived hear 30 years ago. thanks.

CartLegger: 3rd Nov 2007 - 12:32 GMT

I think you'd be wise to let your mother read some of the comments on this post. Maybe you can print the positive ones for her? But it may take more than that to sway her from her memory. As I like to say, memory is the best antidote for history. She'll never see Brooklyn the way you will.

Shevo: 12th Nov 2007 - 18:44 GMT

This board is hilarious..I practically lived in Forte Green projects for about 3 months and nothing happened to me. I am what one would call an black white girl. I grew up in a Mass. suburb in which mine was one of the two black families, wear expensive clothing, speak properly, and love jewelry. No one bothered me- other than a bit of a culture shock I'd have to say my stay in Brooklyn was a nice one. I think no matter where you go in the world if you carry yorself with respect, and respect the people around you Karma will always protect you. If you are a lousy person to begin with then bad thins are undoubtedly headed your way.

In short take the job. Learn the 23 Psalms, and have a great life.

Partara: 2nd Dec 2007 - 04:32 GMT

What about the Dekalb area? I might move there.

brooklyn girl: 16th Dec 2007 - 06:05 GMT

im a white girl born and raised in BK. you cant be serious with this message board. most of these people sound like they never leave the house. why do you think because your white your going to be killed for walking in any neighborhood in BK? LMAO. get over yourself and get out more!!

Kasey: 4th Jan 2008 - 20:20 GMT

No offence but why are you sitting here saying you are white? To me it makes no difference what color you are. If there is troulbe somewhere you either get caught up in it, or you dont. I dont really think that daytime and nightime hours are going to make a difference, if someone is going to bust a cap in someone elses ass they gonna do it any time of day.

Pam: How about Gravesend? Is it a safe neighborhood?

jollyboy: 3rd Feb 2008 - 17:03 GMT

english guy thinking of getting a place on clarkson in east flatbush. seems lively area, but last night when i left there were five, yes, five cops standing on the flatbush/clarkson corner. yes that's good to keep crime down, perhaps, but why should an area need five cops, something i've never seen in 40 years in nyc? it was only 10:30 pm, by the way.

Cloud: 16th Feb 2008 - 02:32 GMT

I live near Coney Island and I use the Q train to get around. I tell you what, I've been robbed 3 times over 1 school year so far. One of the robberies almost ended my life when a kid was about to stab me...

JGurl: 2nd Mar 2008 - 01:31 GMT

Hey I'm only 18, and I have concerns too. I have to transfer to a university in Brooklyn within a year, and I might get an apartment on the east side since I heard it's really safe. Is it true? Also is it true that the upper west side of brooklyn is very dangerous? I have friends who warned me to avoid it at all costs otherwise you'll mostly likely will no longer be alive.

Peter: 3rd Mar 2008 - 14:45 GMT

i think youre referring to , as it has areas referred to as "upper east side" and "upper west side", whereas generally doesnt. to me, the "upper east side/east side" is where folks move that are a) rich b) interested in not having a typical experience. as far as "no longer being alive", i must say that your friends sound like theyre spouting sensationalist bullshit, either way. i mean, how often do you hear about brooklyn- or anywhere else in nyc for that matter- being deathsville? i mean, seriously. thats tripe that only predjudiced people (and the uninitiated or ignorant) pass along...

brnxbaby: 20th Mar 2008 - 12:51 GMT

Nah, I got fam in brooklyn and they are just fine..I stayed my summers there alot when my moms was working... You have nothing to worry about sweet heart... But still be on your guard, but I mean anywhere you go. Crime happens everywhere, the degree of the crime just depends on why somebodys doing it and where they are. Got me? Hope this helps.

Cherie: 8th Apr 2008 - 18:43 GMT

Okay, can someone help me out? I'm looking at an apartment at corner of Broadway and Hart in Bed-Sty or is it Bushwick? Landlord says Bed-Sty. It's a good deal and the Myrtle subway's close. The neighborhood seems a bit strange—like maybe I wouldn't fit in, so I'm trying to get some education here. I almost hate to say it and please don't laugh too hard but, I'm 20, I'm white and I'm Canadian. I'm also tall for a girl, and thin but curvy, long medium blond wavy hair (does this stuff really matter). I saw some bullet holes in the building next door but those could have been from anytime right? There aren't any gangs or anything are there? Thanks for any advice.

Peter: 8th Apr 2008 - 19:03 GMT

cherie: , in the area around street is the border between and , so i suppose it depends on which side of the place is on, heh. the west side being and the east side being .

i, myself, live in , less than 5 blocks from that intersection, and i love my neighborhood. though i hate these sorts of subjective threads about race/gentrification/safety, i will say that you and i fit into a similar demographic, and i find the neighborhood to be perfect. affordable, safe, accessible, etc. right there, youre near the (which runs express on rush-hours, so you dont have to switch to the J at ave to get into the city for work!), close enough to the , and theres a grocery right there... i say go for it.

Colorado Kid: 10th Apr 2008 - 03:59 GMT

I drove a truck in Brooklyn and Queens, delivering fuel oil. You should expect something bad to happen, always be on your guard. I've had more run ins with all sorts of people. You never know what they are capable of. There are a lot of angry people out there. Don't be lulled into a false sense of security. Brooklyn is not Mayberry. Remember the ONE rule of B'klyn and that's there are no rules! Do yourself a favor, stay out of crappy areas. Your just a walking target. Take my word for it, I know what I'm saying. I've spent more time on the street than any of these other posters. Try to get something on Long Island if you can.

jason: 7th May 2008 - 20:37 GMT

i use to live in east 21 between beverly and coutelyou (flatbush). thanks god i got out of there. it was terrible. Their was gunshots almost every day. my friend marlon god stab in front of my building. now i am living in ave k wich is a lot better. i wouldnt reccomend anyone to move there

sandra: 7th Jun 2008 - 15:52 GMT

broadway and hewes st is dangerous i am planning to move there i don't know anything about brooklyn new york.! help mee!

1life2live: 15th Jun 2008 - 05:25 GMT

I from brooklyn my whole life the truth is shit can happen if your in the wrong place at the wrong time im lucky i have many friends stabbed or killed for stupidity but as long as you keep your head up and nose clean for the most part nobody bothers you although its always good to mention some names if shit pops off. I love livin here but wouldn't raise a family here the school system is fcuked up. a word of advice to u youngerster dont be stupid and join a gang it just brings problems i rolled with locs (crips) my whole life although i though i was cool i was just makin thing worse. stay with ur close group of friends and NEVER TRUST ANYBODY LIKE BIG SAID "YOUR MOM WILL SET UR ASS UP PROPERLY GASSED UP" haha lifes funny

Allison: 15th Jun 2008 - 19:32 GMT

Well, I was born in Flatbush and even though I've been out for 20 years the place still gives me the willies whenever I return. I live in Manhattan now and am constantly amazed at the amount of self-delusion that people have about crime here - it reminds me of when I lived in San Francisco and people would tell me about how earthquakes were no big deal. The truth is, Brooklyn is huge and there are bad and good parts. Go online and search databases with crime stats and call (or visit) the local police precinct where you are thinking of living and ask them what type of neighborhood it is. Believe me, whatever you may think about cops, they know. Here are the latest stats I could pull on Kings county as a whole, unfortunately from 2006. NY has cleaned itself up a great deal over the years, but don't kid yourself that ANY big city is safe.

County Kings
Community/county police department County Total
Year 2006
Total number of reported crimes (violent and property) 61,368
Number of violent crimes 17,992
Number of murders 225
Number of rapes 307
Number of robberies 8,182
Number of aggravated assaults 9,278
Number of property crimes 43,376
Number of burglaries 7,415
Number of larcenies 30,785
Number of motor vehicle thefts 5,176

(From New York Department of Criminal Justice Services, Uniform Crime/Incident-Based Reporting system as of 12/14/2007

Allison: 15th Jun 2008 - 19:37 GMT

Not to bog you down with stats, but just by comparison here is the info for the same year in Manhattan:

County New York County
Community/county police department County Total
Year 2006
Total number of reported crimes (violent and property) 56,255
Number of violent crimes 10,662
Number of murders 111
Number of rapes 222
Number of robberies 5,083
Number of aggravated assaults 5,246
Number of property crimes 45,593
Number of burglaries 4,631
Number of larcenies 39,225
Number of motor vehicle thefts 1,737

Megan: 31st Aug 2008 - 03:16 GMT

Hello,

I have recently relocated to NY and am living in Bensonhurst, near Bay Parkway and 66th. I was wondering if I could get people's opinions on how safe it is for a single, white female to walk around at night?

Thanks for the help!

Guitarista81: 8th Sep 2008 - 15:01 GMT

We went to manhattan in 05' and felt so safe, 1st time ever been there im 26 walked all around uptown-downtown at night, I felt safe as shit. People like force could be believable if they knew how to talk like a human rather than a 12 year old trying to be a hardcore gangbanger, get a life loser. I'm rollin to brooklyn in a few weeks to go visit a friend, and all he said was as long as u mind your own business and dont go 2 the shitty parts then ur good. So fuck whatever anyone says saying brooklyn and the entire 5 burroughs are the most dangerous places in the US. Please dont be over dramatic about it. I lived in LA for 12 years and thats a hardcore place too, so it aint no different

Danielle : 12th Sep 2008 - 17:48 GMT

i probably will rent a room in brooklyn sunset park ...is it save ? I will be working in manhattan and coming late from work ...i never been in new york and im scared hearing all the stories about brooklyn ...

surfer: 17th Sep 2008 - 18:16 GMT

Answer to Megan> Bensonhurst is changing from Italian to Chinese. Still a good neighborhood.
Answer to Danielle> Sunset park is now called the 2nd Chinatown. Excellent neighborhood. I grew up there in the 50's & 60's. Expect to pay very high rent. All of Brooklyn has changed for the better. The 70's & 80's were probably the worst times for the Borough.

surfer: 17th Sep 2008 - 18:26 GMT

One more item on Brooklyn. Do not beleive everything you hear about Brooklyn being unsafe. Us Brooklynites have been picked on since DAY ONE.

surfer: 17th Sep 2008 - 18:44 GMT

Colorado Kid And I do mean Kid, when you say (THEY) whom are you referring to?

Hello, Brooklyn: 24th Sep 2008 - 04:22 GMT

Please dont come to Brooklyn... Please stay wherever it is you live if you're going to post dumbass questions like "Is Brooklyn safe for a pretty young girl?"

Please, please, please do all of us a favor and stay where you are. It's a jungle, greatness never comes out of Brooklyn. The restaurants are terrible, the shopping is horrible, all neighborhoods are bad, there are no good schools and the pizza sucks, okay?

So please, stay wherever it is that you are and don't get your soul snatched in the mean streets of Brooklyn, USA!

BK: 27th Oct 2008 - 03:42 GMT

I both disagree and agree with alot of these people. I feel that if you're not looking for trouble, generally no harm will come to you. But that isnt always the case. There are in fact certain areas that u should stay away from. Not all areas are straight up horrible and not all are a peachy as they seem. Coney island is a cool place to go during the day, just "do you", meaning mind your own.

anon (ool-182f920f.dyn.optonline.net): 14th Nov 2008 - 02:28 GMT

um NO! I have worked in bedstuy across the street from Marcy Projects for 2 years. I get people comin up to me everyday "hey mami, god bless you, your beautiful" so there was NO reason for me to ever feel unsafe cus everyone is usually nice and I find it funny how random dudes try to talk to me. that was until 6pm!! when some stupid ignorant nigger from Marcy Projects decide to run up on me and rob me! I dont act scared cus im not! I dont look like a hipster cus im not! Im there 5 days out of the fuckin week! so shit can happen and ANY time to ANY one regardless of what you look like and where your from. Dont get that shit twisted

booking12: 23rd Nov 2008 - 01:23 GMT

a guy was found dead on a grcoery store in regent place flatbush wensday night. regent place in flatbush is terrible

She Said it: 30th Nov 2008 - 02:29 GMT

It´s funny how people keep asking if brooklyn is safe for a white girl.What does the color of your skin have to do with being safe or not?? Jayne why dont you explore brooklyn and marine park to see for yourself if you like it or if you think its safe.Peoples opinions are their opinions and its best to get one for yourself.People seem to be scared of the unknown. So if you get familiar with a place, usually you feel more safe.

Espen: 23rd Dec 2008 - 02:04 GMT

i vent to New york in november 96 i was 19 years old travelling
alone from norway and got robd at a park wile smoking pot waiting for a man who i met in manhatten we bought pot and crack in harlem then he lured me to coney island, the plan was a party with girls somewere in brooklyn after repidely asking when we would arrirve to our stop he always said soon so after about 60 70 min or so we ended up in coney island ive never heard of it before så we start smoking crack onthe boardwalk an then he had to call som friens regarding the "party" and he showd me a park were i was too wait, then after 30 minuts or so he came with friends and robbd me for 100 dollars but he diddent juse gun or knife but they were three of them but it went down easely.. i saw i film requiem for a drem and the part they go to the littel marked to pawn the tv i recognised the place because i bought the basterd a used jacket for 5 dollar but wen i look back it was i nise of tourism ecsperiense..

Espen: 23rd Dec 2008 - 02:08 GMT

Espen: 23rd Dec 2008 - 02:04 GMT

i vent to New york in november 96 i was 19 years old travelling
alone from norway and got robd at a park wile smoking pot waiting for a man who i met in manhatten we bought pot and crack in harlem then he lured me to coney island, the plan was a party with girls somewere in brooklyn after repidely asking when we would arrirve to our stop he always said soon so after about 60 70 min or so we ended up in coney island ive never heard of it before så we start smoking crack onthe boardwalk an then he had to call som friens regarding the "party" and he showd me a park were i was too wait, then after 30 minuts or so he came with friends and robbd me for 100 dollars but he diddent juse gun or knife but they were three of them but it went down easely.. i saw i film requiem for a drem and the part they go to the littel marked to pawn the tv i recognised the place because i bought the basterd a used jacket for 5 dollar but wen i look back it was i nise of tourism ecsperiense..

truth: 16th Jan 2009 - 06:38 GMT

i'm a 25 year old white male. i've lived in Brooklyn for 8 years. in the last 2 years I've had masked men put guns to my head twice, once in Crown Heights, and once in Bed-Stuy. I've been jumped by a gang of 5 people in Bed-Stuy. i've been chased with a baseball bat in Bed-Stuy, and there are shootings there all the time. i've seen several. usually you'll be ok, just don't walk around looking lost in places you don't know. don't wander around Fulton St, Atlantic Avenue, Washington Ave, Underhill Ave late at night.

Peter: 16th Jan 2009 - 07:01 GMT

curiously, im a 31 year old white male who has lived in brooklyn for pushing half my life. i live right up against . i even lived on between and (thats nouveau-tony , btw, not , lol). ive never witnessed anything remotely like what "truth" says. chased with a baseball bat? cmon, man. shootings "all the time". please. if you really got jumped that much, get some street-smarts, son. damn. most people would learn after the first time. ive gotten jumped twice and both times the mugger went to the hospital. open your eyes.

Ravjot Sidu Singh Khan Shah Sharma: 31st Jan 2009 - 19:56 GMT

Is there any brown people in brooklyn???????????

Ravjot Sidu Singh Khan Shah Sharma: 31st Jan 2009 - 19:57 GMT

Im Just curious because i am debating on moving to Brooklyn????Please tell me?

BKaLLday: 1st Feb 2009 - 12:27 GMT

Brooklyn is safe. Born and raised there. Bk is mad soft. All of NY is soft. I moved to Cali and saw real gang activities and was shook yo!

Peter: 1st Feb 2009 - 23:53 GMT

"are there any brown people in brooklyn"?! LOL...

ali: 15th Feb 2009 - 22:36 GMT

I have a job interview tomorrow on Church Avenue, between Ocean Avenue and E. 21st, area code 11226. Any insight on that area? I'm a 23 year white girl, and just want to get a better idea of the area I may be working in... Thanks!

jay: 4th Mar 2009 - 10:38 GMT

im bout to visit my girl on e.92 st..i know how to get around in a basic city, havent been to NY since i was like 5 though, she said there are crips in the area..ive been around dangerous people like that before, and from what i kno is that if u dont mess with them..or give them a reason to mess wit u..they wont mess with you..is that true? Im going from Dumont to e.98th to e.92 st.

Thanks

Cartlegger: 4th Mar 2009 - 13:11 GMT

If you know, then why ask? The rule is still the same in NYC, save for fewer people than ever are getting their ass kicked for no reason. For now!

Peter: 4th Mar 2009 - 14:24 GMT

people are so comfortably familiar with its framework and effects that they dont realize they live within a

steven: 10th Mar 2009 - 19:40 GMT

church ave and east 21 is not that great. actually east 21 between church and albemare is ok but go further down towards regent place you would be walking in to one of the worst nieghborhoods (for me). everytime i go on east 21 i get muged or cursed at. also east 21 between caton and church is bad. i travel all around brooklyn. i know what areas are bad and not.

Peter: 10th Mar 2009 - 20:08 GMT

youd think youd learn to stop going down a certain street if you got mugged every time you went down it...

law: 2nd Apr 2009 - 08:30 GMT

im reading everyone's comment's and agree with most.im an italian girl that was born and raised in coney island.i had friend's in the project's that i visited often.i never had a problem! i was a neighborhood girl who knew many people so if shit was to go down, i had many to have my back.but back in the 90's i had people approach me like why this white girl over here on this side.and i would say what side? the black side many of these people were way younger than me. and i'd say please there is no side this is my neighborhood too.but in the later years the russian's started moving into the project's with the blacks. you see alot of them now down the way where at i time it was rare to see a white person down that way unless they lived in seagate.i now live in staten island and i have to tell you alot of undisclosed crime that happens here does not always make the paper. maybe they want staten island to have a good reputation,but most crimes do happen in good neighboorhoods not always in the poor rundown areas.we moved out of c.i. in 1999 to staten island and back in 2003 my 20yr old brother his friend and the friend's mother were shot and killed 10am on a saturday with people passing by in sheepshead bay brooklyn by a 63yr old irish guy with a 357 magnum.it's ironic my parents moved to staten island cause she felt coney island was getting bad and yet my brother gets shot in the head in a good mostly white neighborhood.so its never precisely right to sterotype a nabe just because of the race that lives in it.common sense when you go into any neighborhood u mind ur business walk tall and confident and go about ur way.no matter where it is!!!i learned a lesson from my brother's death shit can happen anywhere,and i mind my p's and q's cuz the drug dealer on the corner or the guy with the baggy pants may not be the one to bring u harm it just might be that little old china man or the old lady in the wheel chair that might be packing heat.u just never know!!!

Matthew From Brooklyn: 30th May 2009 - 04:41 GMT

I come from a upper middle class neighborhood from a different part of the country and I live in Brooklyn. I moved to Brooklyn about 8 months ago. I live in Bay Ridge, and in terms of crime in Brooklyn I would definitely say its not as safe as where I come from. Maybe you can play around with statistics, but a number of times I've seen gang types threaten people on the subway with knives or fists luckily it wasnt me. Late at night, be careful. If you go out where trouble is, eventually it will find you.

sweet_girl4705: 4th Jun 2009 - 14:59 GMT

hey - love all the comments - i have a great job offer at kingsborough hospital and i want to take it - schedule is day and night hours in east flatbush. i'm living in nyc 10 years and feel safe going to bronx, qns and brooklyn, just not sure if it's okay in east flatbush on regular basis for small white girl, especially when it's getting dark at night. any help appreciated. i love the neighborhood from what i've seen and want the job, people were friendly with directions and a few hey baby's but that's ok with me. just want to know if anyone feels it's a direct threat and should be avoided for a job offer. thanks to everyone, appreciate all feedback.

Brooklynite: 17th Jun 2009 - 15:41 GMT

There are basically two sides to Brooklyn, on the west side, and along the water, it tends to be very safe middle and upper middle class neighborhoods with a few rough spots like parts of Red Hook and Sunset Park. The eastern part of Brooklyn should be taken seriously, and this includes the area around Kings County Hospital. If you decide to work in that hospital, you will be safe if you take the shuttles, do not explore the area at all, and have respect for the nature of the neighborhood there. The hospital campus is marginal in terms of safety, and it is within a short distance to some of the most dangerous neighborhoods in the city(i.e. Brownsville, East New York, ocean hill). I would recommend commuting by car if possible during daylight, and without question at night. Most people who live in this area are good people, mostly West Indian immigrants, but there is significant gang and drug related activity in the area, and it is within blocks of some of the worst housing projects in the city. I urge you to take care and educate yourself before spending time around here.

rob21: 30th Jun 2009 - 19:53 GMT

coney island is not bad comparing to some other nieghborhoods in east flatbush, brownsville, bed stuy, east new york or bushwick. i know this because i live in west 33. its probly the worst nieghborhood here in coney island because there is shootings and crime but everytime i visit my friends in regent place(east flatbush) or brownsville i see how shitty there nieghborhood is.

From Florida: 14th Jul 2009 - 18:00 GMT

Moving to Bushwick. Any suggestions? I know it used to be pretty bad, but is it still?

abcdsed: 15th Jul 2009 - 23:11 GMT

if you walk near beach at summer never know what happens well if ur a teen then u might get jumped by spanish kids or blacks if u go down by mermaid ave yeah it gets bad

Ganymede: 21st Jul 2009 - 09:22 GMT

NY native here. It's all relative to what you are used to and what you consider "safe". It's not hard to tell when your in a bad neighborhood or some "precarious" position. Is Brooklyn safe the short answer is yes. Is it more dangerous than where you live now? I'd bet my beer fridge on it. Seriously though, Brooklyn's safest areas are a hundred times more dangerous than your average North American city. But as you can read from other posters on the thread; you won't feel threatened unless you choose to. And of course you gotta use our head too.

My point is, if you can't handle movin somewhere that's anymore dangerous than where you are now, then maybe you should reconsider.

Hope that helps.

JAYROCK: 27th Jul 2009 - 22:40 GMT

Listen...You just have to understand that living in a big city means you're taking a risk. If you're a middle class white person you're a rich white person to everyone else in the projects. So yes, Brooklyn, has plenty of dangerous areas. You mainly have to be cautious of the little kids and teenagers. They are the ones dumb enought to try to rob or jump you. I've seen it plenty of times in bed sty do or die and "clinton hill." If you look like you're scared or if you're not paying attention you will be targeted. When you're in the hood u need to walk around like u know where you're at. Not scared. Just remember that advice. Trust me it'll really help.

Robert: 7th Aug 2009 - 17:23 GMT

Jayne. Did you finally move to Brookyn?
So, you began all this in 2006 and we haven't heard from you again.
Wherever you are, please, show up again. It'd be fun for you to read this whole big volume that you started.

jack: Good advice.

Duderonomous: 3rd Dec 2009 - 18:15 GMT

my bit of advice being a bed stuy resident, as a skinny young white kid (could maybe pass as puerto rican)...mind your own business in the neighborhood, and never look lost, even if you are. Be aware, but don't go rubbernecking around, you'll get marked. The best bit of advice is, don't look like a fucking hipster. No tight jeans, no stupid flannels, no thousand dollar fix-geared bikes, no laptops in OBVIOUS laptop bags, no boisterous behavior when you're drunk with all your other dumb hipster friends. If I lived in this neighborhood my whole life and saw these people moving in, I'D ROB THEIR BITCH ASSES TOO! too many kids I know told me not to move here because I'd get jumped...bullshit. I'm not a hipster like them so shits working out fine. Neutral colors, hat low, mind your business. Trust me, hoodrats dont fuck with crazy looking white people.

nick: 5th Dec 2009 - 23:23 GMT

omg im from marine park luved here all my life never lived anywhere else.

Rich: 6th Dec 2009 - 01:06 GMT

I thought this was an interesting topic and comment starter. As for Brooklyn, my birth place there's no place just like it anywhere. Naturally time and circumstances change some people and places, but now is the time to live in Brooklyn or Queens. Back in 06 when this article was started there were a lot of justifiable questions and concerns, especially if you've never lived in the city. If you've got an opportunity to make a "good living" as was stated, you gotta at least try it. There are bumps on and in all roads, after a while you learn where they are and avoid them. In general I'm saying Brooklyn is fine day or night, just use your GOD given common sense.

CC: 7th Dec 2009 - 15:37 GMT

Thanks everyone for the common sense/words of wisdom. My husband and I making a move to Bed Stuy for a short period of time. I find it humorous when people who've never lived in an urban area don't use common sense. People are hungry so don't flaunt your "resources" plate bc they will try to get it. Does anyone have any thoughts about Fulton & Tompkins area?

RL: 9th Dec 2009 - 18:33 GMT

Is 590 Flatbush ave area dangerous I was thinking about moving there?

Janny: 11th Dec 2009 - 19:34 GMT

I'm planning on moving to NY possibly because of a teaching job. I'll be making around 48k a year so I'm wondering what are some good, SAFE neighborhoods that I could live in that aren't so far out in the boonies that I have like an hour and half long commute to my school in Brooklyn, but are affordable and close? I just get so confused and don't know what to ultimately make of areas out there because I see good looking apartments in NYC craigslist but its impossible to really know about the neighborhood without speaking to the people who live there. I'm a young Black female by the way (in case that matters).

Any help would be greatly appreciated because I'll be making a decision about the move pretty soon.

Peter: 11th Dec 2009 - 19:48 GMT

did you, by any chance, read any of the above comments?

or are you just hoping a stranger will spit out the name of an affordable, safe, convenient, close neighborhood for you to live in? hahaha...

Janny: 11th Dec 2009 - 22:18 GMT

I did, by chance, read many of the above comments and I was looking for something more specific to my situation. I didn't know that would be an issue. After all, its not like I'm asking for the name of a cheap close apartment in particular, but rather NEIGHBORHOODS. Williamsburg, the Financial District, names of areas in West Brooklyn, etc. Even neighborhoods/areas to avoid would be helpful to at least give me a clearer picture of the city.

Franny Wentzel: 12th Dec 2009 - 00:08 GMT

Brooklyn's okay if you don't mind the zombies that wander into town from the big cemetaries along the Long Island Expressway. I should note that contrary to popular myth, zombies aren't that much more cannibalistic than the average Brooklynite.

Peter: 12th Dec 2009 - 01:05 GMT

for a teacher, you sure have bad reading-comprehension, then. lol.

Xavivi: 12th Dec 2009 - 02:28 GMT

To all people who are worried about safety in Brooklyn.
First of all I'd like to tell you about my personal experience in that place, that has not been very pleasent at all.
As a youngster, in Prospect Park I was walking around with my cute, but fat girlfriend, when she, all of a sudden, desperately pushed me against a tree that marked me for the rest of my days. I still remember that moment and even keep a small piece of wood stuck on my buttock. This is just to show that danger could be anywhere. I never went back to Brooklyn but I have surely stumbled into much worse situations on quiet and peaceful towns.
So my final advise is that, if there's a fair salary and a steady job in these times of crisis... don't think twice!

Janny: 13th Dec 2009 - 03:24 GMT

Hmmm. Not sure what the attitude is about from a couple of posters here, but to the people who aren't angry or looking to feel big on the internet, is East Williamsburg/Bushwick considered the hood or no?
Fort Greene?

Robert: 13th Dec 2009 - 13:38 GMT

Janny, Brooklyn is fine, as well as the Bronx or any other place... (until you get screwed in any sense).
So, on this long article, I'm copying a number of links Peter that Peter described more than four years ago to Janie, the girl who started all this great discussion in 2006. To make it easier for you here it goes:

Peter: 26th May 2006 - 15:34 GMT

jayne: if you havent read up on the neighborhood lately, check these links out...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_Park,_Brooklyn
www.answers.com/main/ntquery;jsessionid=2icgk57bchg5t?dsid=2222&dekey=Marine+Park&sbid=lc06b
www.answers.com/topic/marine-park-brooklyn
www.nycgovparks.org/sub_your_park/park_info_pages/park_info.php?propID=B057

Robert: 13th Dec 2009 - 13:40 GMT

Eds: please correct the part where I mention Peter twice,
Thanks.

Janny: 14th Dec 2009 - 05:22 GMT

Robert thanks for your reply. Contrary to what I guess what is assumed, I actually looked at those links and a lot more than were even mentioned on here. Even looked at google maps to see street views of a lot of areas. What I wanted was to actually speak to a real resident of the area about it in its current state. I didn't know it would be such a bother so I'm done with asking that now, at least from this site anyway. I just know about such things as gentrification so I know not every neighborhood is the exact same as it was 4 years ago and I wanted to speak to real people about it because reading about a place from a website is very different than actually talking about it with people there themselves. I'm over it though as I see this isn't the place for that. Thanks anyway.

sissa: 22nd Dec 2009 - 15:49 GMT

Hi, i'm french and i'm moving in Brooklyn in bed-stuy, on throop ave and lexington, can anyone tell me more about this area?? Thank you so much

hmmmmm=s: 24th Dec 2009 - 03:06 GMT

ima be staying in eny bushwick area, just wondering if its safe in the day and stuff for a girl? will anyone do anything for no reason? lol i feel lika loser for askin that..ima be stayin with my boy so walking around with him will be ok right?

Xavivi: 24th Dec 2009 - 17:20 GMT

You'se all wear a colt 45 under your jackets... you'll be fine, no pro!

john91: 14th Jan 2010 - 02:59 GMT

i live in coney island west 31 to be exact and its really not that bad. If you wanna go to a real ghetto nieghborhood go to regent place flatbush.

eny: 21st Jan 2010 - 02:59 GMT

ii live in eny and ill tell u something when i used to go to school in 218 there was at least 5 deaths that happened in tha rout i take back home and alot of shootin happens in tha projects because of all tha blods and crips and all this happened in what five blocks of east ny i dont go through tha projects unless i have to

Robert: 21st Jan 2010 - 19:21 GMT

Yeah, I remember, way back, when they found those seven frozen naked bodies around Bullshit Pl.

Hannah: 3rd Feb 2010 - 14:13 GMT

Hi, Not really relevant in the "safe neighbourhood-discussion", but just curious and I am not being sarcastic. What are the greatest things/qualities about NY and new yorkers? From a european person living in a rather boring country with boring people..yes, I can admit that ;)

Xavivi: 3rd Feb 2010 - 20:11 GMT

Hanna, with all due respect. What is that you can admit?

Hannah: 8th Feb 2010 - 23:01 GMT

Well, since I am european I probably also fit under the category "boring" to some degree (but half of my family is Jamaican and they are definitely not boring - nor is the rest of my family but MANY are in the country I am in) Not curious, no humor, not openminded and too much racism.

Robert: 8th Feb 2010 - 23:52 GMT

Hannah, I guess you live in Great Britain, where one of the greatest humour on earth comes from, but if you are from France, then I can say that most French people are amongst the most joyful people around, not to mention the Italians with their good jokes for almost anything. Boredom could be anywhere... though some places lack it, many just take it for granted, while others are just used to it.

Hannah: 10th Feb 2010 - 11:30 GMT

Robert, yes, you could be right.. but sometimes the grass just seems so greener an prettier anywhere but in your own backyard.(I don´t have a backyard by the way but you know what I mean;) I live in a small country - Denmark and definitely enjoy my family, friends, work - but something is just lacking in this country.. I guess I could move to one of the bad places mentioned - Bushwick, Bed-Stuy etc. and get all the excitement I need, maybe even within a couple of hours. Being bi-racial I suppose I wouldn´t stand out, but having a rather bad european accent I am sure I wouldn´t do so well..

Matt: 16th Feb 2010 - 11:36 GMT

Brooklyn and on the whole the majority of NY is relatively safe unless you want to go looking for trouble! I moved over from the UK almost a year ago and have lived in Brooklyn for most of that time. I love it! Obviously it has it's problems like any large city but on the whole in my experience it feels a lot safer than London! Their always seems to be a lot of police presence and I've never had any hassle! In London I was robbed three times so I'd say don't read into the sacre stories too much!

Hannah: 17th Feb 2010 - 14:19 GMT

Matt - What part of Brooklyn do you live in and what is your rent? :)

Jay.C: 20th Feb 2010 - 05:30 GMT

I lived in sunset park Brooklyn all my life and the most Ive been around were fights. Guns pointed at me but they never shoot. U got nothing to be afraid of Just don't show fear or annoy people like your foreign.

phillip: 21st Feb 2010 - 15:08 GMT

I'm a 20 yr old white male and I've lived in Bed-Stuy for about 6 months now. I was reluctant at first to move here, but because the apartment was so cheap and nice, I couldn't turn it down. For the first week or so I was pretty nervous about 10 minute walks to the trains(A or J). But I met some of the nicest people here. Most people say Hello and comment about the nice day we're having, or something similar. On Thanksgiving Day, EVERYONE I passed on the street stopped and wished me Happy Thanksgiving(NO ONE does that in the city). The ghetto thuggish guys you see sometimes walking Poodles and Pomeranians lol.

I have been hit on a lot by these thuggish black men, some of them following me home, which creeps me out A LOT. And a guy did get shot in the leg down the street from me, but it wasn't a random shooting...

Anyways, I wont live here forever... right now I'm just a poor college student. But it's not a totally bad place to be. People just have A LOT of misconceptions.

berechi: : 4th May 2010 - 07:44 GMT

Can anyone tell me average price for 1 bed room or studio apparetment in Brooklyn? I am looking for something as cheap and as safe possible. I'm currently a student and I have to stay this summer in NY for internship. I have never been in NY and I can't compromise safety. Any ballpark estimate of price for one bed room or studio would be appreciated. Thanks

Tyquawn: 12th May 2010 - 22:12 GMT

Yes it is Dangerous to walk around my neighborhood at night. i live in bed-stuy between gates avenue and patchen.

Tyquawn: 12th May 2010 - 22:12 GMT

Yes it is Dangerous to walk around my neighborhood at night. i live in bed-stuy between gates avenue and patchen.

tvan10: 19th May 2010 - 01:14 GMT

marine park is a great place to lve it has big park in area there are all kind of people that live here ... the neighbors are great ..but I have to say they fight over parking spots.....and you can not buy house connect.... I can tell you that but not everyone has no heart.....................there alot of nice people here.

Frank Rizzo : 19th May 2010 - 22:44 GMT

Thinking of moving to bushwick around the area of bushwick ave and elgert st can anyone tell me their experiences and if you think its dangerous for me and my G/F to live their we are both white mid 20's and own a car i know parking will be a hassle but its whatever i just dont want my car or my house to be broken into or my g/f to get hurt or robbed wile walking from the train at night She works until 11PM some nights and wont get home till 1ish (i think its off the j line) but anyway your input on the area is appreciated thanks

Frank Rizzo : 19th May 2010 - 22:54 GMT

Also to add from before wanted to see if the rent is justified its a 3rd floor 1 bedroom for 1300 a month gut renovated with stainless steel appliances new bathroom all granite and video intercom

Billy Bob: 6th Jul 2010 - 04:50 GMT

So what happened girl? Did you take the job?? How did it work out?

the angel: 11th Jul 2010 - 23:17 GMT

black people are like monsters , they terriify everyone
get rid of them from the face of the earth and this world will look so peaceful and nice
or send them to the zoo in africa where they belong
ugly pathetic brainless monkeys

Coolio: 16th Jul 2010 - 22:47 GMT

4 years later, this thread is absolutely hilarious. The misconceptions that "some" white people, & people who have lived a more "privileged life" have about Brooklyn (and us blacks) is near comical. I am a East New York / Brooklyn native and resident. Lived here for 40 years. I "almost" got robbed twice, (note "almost") and that was BACK IN THE 80's!

Walk in ANY borough at 3, 4AM in the morning, and the chances of something bad happening to you increase. Even on Long Island!

A lot of you that have posted on this thread since 2006, need a SERIOUS reality check. Even you so called "thugs" who posted about how bloods and crips run sh*t, and how you have seen so many murders. GTFOOH with that BS. I.S. 218 and Cypress Hills was rough, but there wasn't a body count there everyday.

Look for trouble, wander around in empty / abandoned places late at night, or associate with trouble - and TROUBLE WILL FIND YOU.
Most of us here are good, and hard working despite the odds stacked against us. No need to fear "black people" or any neighborhood in NYC.

Back in the 70's, 80's and early 90's, a NON white person walking through (middle class) Howard Beach, Queens or Bensonhurst, Brooklyn after a certain hour = instant trouble. Google the racial ish that went on there. Compare it to incidents with non blacks in say Brownsville, or Bushwick. There is NO comparison.

GravesendJohn: 18th Jul 2010 - 02:53 GMT

Let me just point out that East New York's crime rates are higher than any other neighborhood in the city.
Anyway for the "I'm a white girl moving to Brooklyn" thing. Let's remember that whites still dominate Brooklyn as well as the rest of the city. Although their are ofcourse black neighborhoods here. If you really want to experience black carribean culture, visit East Flatbush. It's not the best neighborhood. I wouldn't walk around their at night. Sheepshed Bay, Brighton Beach, Gravesend, Bensonhurst, Sunset Park, Midwood, Park Slop, Fort Green, Prospect Park are all great neighborhoods.

Kelllyy: 23rd Jul 2010 - 01:20 GMT

well ,if your a female , i think you shouldnt walk around alone i mean i've done that its pretty creepy but im 11 so yeah. But i suggest you dont go to east new york or sunset and other wise. They happen to be the most places to be dangerous even though i live in bensonhurst. But watch out.! Lucks!

Jennifer: 25th Jul 2010 - 05:13 GMT

Frank Rizzo - I have lived in Bushwick (Bushwick ave, btwn Jefferson & Troutman) for a year now and have never had a problem. It’s all subjective though. If you enjoy diversity you will like this neighborhood. Your girlfriend should try to stick to the busy streets (Myrtle) as much as possible when walking alone that late at night, but that is a good rule to follow anywhere. I don't own a car so I can't comment on that. I do hear car alarms ALL the time, but that could be from the thunder or fender benders. :) Your apartment sounds pretty nice for 1300. Plus you are close to the train. FYI - If your apartment is facing Bushwick ave be prepared for some noise all night long.

mike: 19th Aug 2010 - 07:33 GMT

i was reading some of these and i kinda agree wit robert lol... She started this shit back in 06 and im kinda curious to see if she moved here or not.. Let us knoee if yuh could.. =].. and yess some areas are bad and some are good. Jus watch out for yur selff nd yu should bee finee

Projects: 3rd Sep 2010 - 00:05 GMT

I'm from California and have lived here my whole life. My dream, believe it or not, is to live in Brooklyn. I've never been, but for some reason I so want to live in the Marcy Projects. I'm a latina female so I think I would do ok there well maybe until they hear my California girl accent...LIKE OMG...LOL =)

Daniel: 3rd Sep 2010 - 20:34 GMT

Hi I am half white half black(my mom is white and my dad is black).I am from the safe area of Ave J in Brooklyn. I was born and raised there my whole 12 years of my life. It is a mixed neighborhood,americans,chinese,jews,mexicans,and pakistanis. It is a very safe neighboorhood,I recommend living there. But I do have family that live in "bad" neighborhoods,some of my cousins live in east flatbush,I stayed over there for 1 week and it was perfectly safe. One of my cousins knew everyone there and had connections so I didnt feel afraid. And my grandparents live in the Coney Island projects on west 33rd street,it has old russians and blacks.I visit my grandparents often and I havent had any problems there but it aint a safe neighborhood, once when my grandma and I were inside her building waiting for the elevator,there were around 4 black teens in front of the building about to enter the building,one of them yelled at me"Yo nigga open the door for me or I'll fuck you up". Thank god the elevator came in just in time and me and my grandma quickly ran into the elevator. The tourist section where the hotdog place,Luna Park(formerly AstroLand),and the tourists attractions are safe. But in the projects it is also pretty safe but you never know, In the past 2 months there have been 4 murders because of stray bullets. But the boardwalk in Coney Island is always safe because there are only russians there.

Midwood: 6th Sep 2010 - 00:00 GMT

Why the hell would you want to live in the projects?! What? You think its cool living in "the ghetto"? I mean really, from Cali to Marcy Projects is a downgrade.

platinum: 12th Sep 2010 - 01:28 GMT

Brooklyn is just one big ghetto and what a ugly place it is!!!

bkkidd: 16th Sep 2010 - 03:02 GMT

Thou Brooklyn does have beautiful neighborhoods. Just type in Victorian Flatbush, Mill Basin, the houses their are so damn big, just like the ones in the movie. http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/03/16/nyregion/victorian600.jpg

MISS EAST NEW YORK : 18th Sep 2010 - 21:52 GMT

I was born AND raised in east new york bklyn. All this talk is getting me sick.its not bad like people r saying. eny changed alot. yes u have some azzes walking around out5 there lke every where esle

anon (rrcs-70-62-56-26.central.biz.rr.com): 20th Sep 2010 - 21:46 GMT

I've gone from Detroit to Marcy's Son all not nice, but got out of that shit ya know..and living safe

SOS Collective: 23rd Sep 2010 - 17:25 GMT

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WOLF: 25th Sep 2010 - 17:40 GMT

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h.michelle: 28th Sep 2010 - 20:28 GMT

hey all,
i need to go to a store in brooklyn that is in the fulton street mall area. i googled brooklyn safe and this came up....i have never been to brooklyn. so, i am envisioning really bad things!!! i am from metuchen new jersey where we have like zero crime. so, i am very concerned about going to bk from some of the posts here. i mean some of these descriptions are terrible. i am familiar with some inner city life in nj- i went to seton hall (near newark nj), i have been to camden, jersey city, elizabeth, paterson, and irvington. i was never really worried about safety in any of those places except irvington- my friend lived on a block with all abandoned (sp?) buildings which were turned into crack houses. there were also gang type people that hung out at her corner. i would go there early in the a.m. to drop her off after a night of clubbing, and i was never bothered. just some hey shortie/hey mami type comments from the guys on the corner. so, is bk worse than these areas in nj??? should i really be worried to go shopping on fulton??? appreciate a quick response please!!! thanx!!!

h.michelle: 29th Sep 2010 - 15:28 GMT

so, i went to brooklyn last night and i had to let everybody know my experience. my sister and i drove to brooklyn from rt 1/9 north to 278. totally uneventful drive except i got a little nervous on 278 where the lanes got really narrow due to construction, but still no biggie. we got off 278 at exit 27, i think. then made a couple of turns and found fulton. it was confusing where i could park....some people had parked on the street, but it seemed it really was a no parking zone. i was afraid i would get a ticket, or worse towed. so we parked in a parking lot. totally safe looking, nothing creepy at all. we walked down adams street to get to fulton, and it was dark- like 730ish. there were tons of people walking home from work, jogging, walking dogs, etc. we found the store we were looking for, had nice experience with friendly, and really helpful sales associates. then we left and walked back to the parking garage. coming out of the shop i was a little confused as to which direction we needed to go to get back to adams street. i stopped a woman and asked her directions. she was so nice and helpful- she even walked part of the way with us to show us the street. my sister and i were not uncomfortable in this area at all. i am really surprised people exaggerated that brooklyn is a bad area. my experience was a positive one....i would feel comfortable going there myself at night. the only time we felt nervous is driving back to jersey- friggin people drive like maniacs in the holland tunnel and pulaski sky way. i swear they were doin 70!!!! that is what we were scared of- getting into a car accident b/c of some fellow jerseyian driving like an idiot!!!

Anna: 5th Oct 2010 - 02:11 GMT

Brooklyn is home to 2.5 million people...AND if it were its own city, it would be the 4th largest in the U.S. To begin with, referring to "Brooklyn" as if it were a neighborhood and saying that "Brooklyn" is a "bad area" is already starting off with the wrong information.

There are some parts of Brooklyn that are "less safe" than others, just like anywhere else in the world. Most of these places have changed drastically over the past 10 years. Since the fiscal crisis of the 80s, all of New York has undergone a drastic change, and many of the stereotypical "bad places" have changed so much that you could hardly recognize them.

As a whole, Brooklyn is a safe, vibrant, and beautiful place to live. It is full of culture and flavor. Even in the so-called "rough parts", people are people everywhere. There are good people and bad people everywhere.

Like any other place in the world, (urban, suburban, etc) there is crime here, but to stay away because of ignorance and fear is doing a tremendous disservice to a wonderful place. I've lived in Brooklyn my entire life (and still do), and I've never had any trouble at all, (and my neighborhood was "rough", to boot). It's not the 70s and 80s any more. You can find trouble anywhere if you try hard enough, even in the Upper-East Side of Manhattan, and some parts of Brooklyn rival a great deal of Manhattan with their affluence, safety and culture. Just because a neighborhood is poorer/working class doesn't mean that it is not a good place to live.

There's no need to dismiss an entire borough because of a few horror stories

Also, half the cautionary tales you'd hear are completely untrue/grossly exaggerated. If you REALLY want to know what a neighborhood is like, you need to visit it, talk to the locals, read the blogs/newspapers and do research.

casper: 10th Oct 2010 - 22:32 GMT

I plan to visit coney island when i come to new york next year and wouldn't let any of the stories here put me off. I live in glasgow, scotland, uk where you can get beaten up or stabbed at anytime of the day for no reason other than walking past the wrong person at the wrong time. What im trying to say is these things happen everywhere.

Mr.Brooklyn: 14th Oct 2010 - 01:46 GMT

Ight, look people. Yes Brooklyn is ghetto, its hood, but its all good!! I mean look We've got Areas with Killers Like Brownsville, East New York, East Flathbush, Flathbush, Bedstuy, Bushwick, Crown Heights,Red Hook, East Willamsburg, Clinton Hill,Canarsie, Flatlands, and yes even Coney Island. I myself have been robbed in Coney. Coneys got bloodz comin out the ass now. You know they tryin to get in movement. Then to add on most hoods in NY still have there project gangs. I mean look when it comes to crime BK is still Hott. But its more gang on gang crime then gang on random person crime. I mean yes you hear about random people getting robbed now and then and sometimes even killed, but most of the time its gang on gang beef. I've lived in BK all my life i'm 16 right now. i've seen alot, things most kids my age shouldn't see. But thats what happens in BK. Now i'd also like to add on that there are mad niceee areas in BK also, such as Brooklyn Heights, Dyker Heights, Fort Hamilton, Marine Park, Borough Park. Those areas pretty, pretty laid back pretty safe. Nothing like the areas of BK i named earlier. See now i would add Park Slope but from end of 2009 up to now Park Slope has been goin down hill. My pops saids its due to all the remodelin goin on in Downtown Brooklyn, so they kickin all the poor people out and they ended in areas like park slope where they dont belong. I mean Look almost every part of NY has bad and good( not counting The Bronx. Its just all gully. hahaha). So honestly pick your spots be street smart, and don't get caught slipin.

George: 17th Oct 2010 - 10:20 GMT

Just stay out of the nigger and spic neighborhoods and you will be fine. If you go hanging out there, it's not at all sure something bad will happen, but it's a stupid risk, just to look at the mooleys sitting on porches.

Jackie Lin: 20th Oct 2010 - 02:18 GMT

I would like to ask if areas around the Brooklyn technical high school is safe. If its a bad area i would not wanna go. I am planning on going to this school but my friend says that BK is dangerous.

David L.: 22nd Oct 2010 - 18:33 GMT

Their are some good parts of BK and some bad parts, just like any other region. The area around BK Tech is safe, so no worries. For ex; Park Slope, Brooklyn Hieghts, Dyker Hieghts, etc are all good parts of BK.

Wheesnaw: 5th Nov 2010 - 03:12 GMT

So would a Punk kid with a blue fan mohawk, leather jacket, patched up pants and combat boots be a prime candidate for problems in some of the bad parts of Brooklyn?

Robert: 5th Nov 2010 - 18:13 GMT

Talking about leather jackets and mohawks, I remember seen, when I was 9, some gang punks as far back as 1956-57 dressed that way at Dean and 4th avenue.
They didn't wear patched up pants but very tight blue jeans... The Scorpions were around at that time and they really scared the crap out of younger kids and older folks. The times, they are a changin'?

Wheesnaw: 5th Nov 2010 - 19:59 GMT

That's REALLY weird, especially considering Punk started in the late '70s. They were ahead of their time. I'm sure they did scare the shit out of everyone. Anyhow, yes, times are different... So would a Punk be the target of douchebaggery(nowadays)?

Wheesnaw: 5th Nov 2010 - 19:59 GMT

That's REALLY weird, especially considering Punk started in the late '70s. They were ahead of their time. I'm sure they did scare the shit out of everyone. Anyhow, yes, times are different... So would a Punk be the target of douchebaggery(nowadays)?

ee: You would just get some stares

Just wondering: 11th Jan 2011 - 15:31 GMT

hey Im writing a story (kind of a fanfic) and my main character lives and grew up in Crown Heights (well all around Brooklyn, but mainly crown heights) and grew up in a gang. She lives on bergen street for now, and this story is set in 1963 or so. where would be a bad hood/the best place to have her gang based at. preferibaly in crown heights? and how is brooklyn collegiate for gangs or how was it in the 60's? if you have any ideas suggestions i would SO appreciate them
THANKS

Sam Adam: 22nd Jan 2011 - 07:01 GMT

Wow! Super entertainig tread everyone! Thanks for the lulz!

Andreas: 2nd Feb 2011 - 11:49 GMT

My girlfriend and I are going to New York this autumn. And we are on the lookout for affordable apartments to rent. And we have found this great looking apartment in Brooklyn - Crown Heights. It’s located in between Rogers Avenue and Nostrand Avenue.
I don’t know anything about these parts of New York, but from what I have managed to read of the Internett these parts is kind of dodgy to live in. How would you rate it for two European tourists in their late 20s? Is it ok for a two week stay?

As I understand, its close several subway stops. How long, in minutes, do you think a trip to Manhattan would take?

I will be forever grateful for answers!

NeapolitanIC: 2nd Feb 2011 - 17:39 GMT

Thanks for the head's up guys!
All of you are very intellectual :-)

miki bones: 5th Feb 2011 - 09:14 GMT

look man for u people that are thinking about moving to bklyn pay attention if u notice the smart people are telling which areas arent safe and shud be avoided just follow the fucking trend. im a black livin in bk for more than 23 yrs.take it from me avoid east flatbush bedstuy crown heights east new york regents place brownsville and da other afforementioned areas. and if u want to see for urself come hang around these areas youll find out for urself. also andreas dont be dumb like i said bfore look at the trend man.hell im also a us marine and i worry about my safety around here. and this goes for all u ppl out there spot the trend.

jt: 6th Feb 2011 - 10:03 GMT

to the white female who is wondering is it safe to walk in bklyn. are you asking this question just because you are white and you might think you are a target? let me fill you in. crime is everyway. and these days, it doesn't make a difference wheather you are white, pink, black green, or any other color.female or male. where have you been?and also what part of bklyn do you or yours consider bad?

jt: 6th Feb 2011 - 10:03 GMT

to the white female who is wondering is it safe to walk in bklyn. are you asking this question just because you are white and you might think you are a target? let me fill you in. crime is everyway. and these days, it doesn't make a difference wheather you are white, pink, black green, or any other color.female or male. where have you been?and also what part of bklyn do you or yours consider bad?

anon (pool-71-172-185-148.nwrknj.east.verizon.net): 20th Feb 2011 - 02:15 GMT

Hi everyone, I'm a 30 year old single woman and I want to move to sunset park. I've seen a very nice apartment for rent in a building on 2nd avenue, around 52th street. Although I liked the area between 3rd and 6th Avenue, 2nd avenue looks different, and I'm concerned about its safety, particularly that I get beck home from the city around 8-9 pm every day and I have to walk from the train sation. Thank you

Sandra: 20th Feb 2011 - 02:16 GMT

Hi everyone, I'm a 30 year old single woman and I want to move to sunset park. I've seen a very nice apartment for rent in a building on 2nd avenue, around 52th street. Although I liked the area between 3rd and 6th Avenue, 2nd avenue looks different, and I'm concerned about its safety, particularly that I get beck home from the city around 8-9 pm every day and I have to walk from the train sation. Thank you

Cindy: 19th Mar 2011 - 03:14 GMT

Wow, some people are really stupid and closed minded. So many of you refer to black people as being bad but I'm a white female and have a mixed son (half black) and truly I feel more comfortable around black than white. I've had worse luck with white men than black....but truly in every area and every race there are some crazy ass people and you just have to use good judgement. I've never been to New York but would love to visit one day but I tend to stick out anywhere I go so I will try to go with someone that has been or knows New York. Where I live in North Carolina there are neighborhoods just as bad as in New York but once again you use good judgement.

AllisonG.S.: 27th Mar 2011 - 05:24 GMT

Brooklyn is becoming more dangerous. Just today, my car was broken into. A few weeks ago, a man was stabbed in my neighborhood. This is strange, since it has been relatively safe here for sometime. I live in East NY. The black and hispanic people in Brooklyn are angry, uneducated, poor and loud. They ruin it for everyone, but what can you do?. They should all be sterilized. Go on the C train into brooklyn, and you can see all the degenerates. And always say excuse me and thank-you, black people are big on manners, and will cuss you if you're not polite enough to them.

Bri: 9th Apr 2011 - 00:32 GMT

I read through this thread and I'd like to say that stating that you're a white female isn't insulting, it's realistic. Personally black men hit on me all of the time, and I would've asked the same thing. Inter-racial couples are normally black men and white women. I don't know if it's because of what the media tells us is beautiful, or what, I just know it's truth.
Though I'm sure if I looked up the statistics, I'd find that black women are more likely to be raped by black men.

Bobb2011: 9th Apr 2011 - 16:17 GMT

I'd be careful in some parts of Brooklyn. I was walking and minding my own business from the store to my friends apartment. It was 1:03 am and I'm white. I saw a Rottweiler with 1 eye and 4 other rough looking dogs following me. I turned the alley and ran, they jumped me 1 block from the apartment. Bit me all over, took my wallet and watch.
Be careful out there!

Smolkowicz Smolkowicz: 9th Apr 2011 - 23:35 GMT

I have been to Brooklyn as a tourist and I think it's a nice place

Joe: 25th Apr 2011 - 23:58 GMT

I don't get it... Brooklyn is mostly white so whats with the "I'm white..." thing?

1111: 18th May 2011 - 13:44 GMT

I'm from LA and I just got back from visiting Brooklyn. I had taken the A train and got off at the Clinton and Washington station. I was told that area was in Bed Stuy. It was around 1am. I walked up and down Fulton Street. There was people out. While I could see that it is a neighborhood where certain things may happen, wrong place wrong time, I wouldn't go so far as to say that its a horrible place. I encountered NO PROBLEMS at all while over there. Keep in mind also tho that I'm from a place in LA that people would consider dangerous also so I already had a basic understanding of what to look out for. I wouldn't mind living in Brooklyn, lots of culture. I also got back on the train and got off at the Broadway Junction, I was told that was East New York. Not the greatest looking place in the world, I'm sure lots of things happen there. But again, I didn't fear for my life and think I was in hell on earth. Things happen anywhere, it's true. Brooklyn is a cool place. It was an experience. Trust me when I say that there are places way worse than Brooklyn tho, where shootings really do happen daily, such as parts of Chicago, LA, or even San Bernardino. Grimey is nationwide. You just gotta be street smart and know what to look out for.

Bubba: 26th May 2011 - 20:05 GMT

Hell, it is always safe...if you like having a big dude dragging your tight white ass into a back alley to give you a pony ride!!! No worries...

Krista: 27th May 2011 - 00:08 GMT

I've lived in Brooklyn my whole life. I've been to Philly, Atlanta, Jersey of course even damn Conneticut. I've been to worst places in Alabama and Atlanta. I've been to the worst areas in Philly and NJ. I've been to the worst areas in Brooklyn. MANY times and more than just a visit or a fifteen minute walk to the train or the bus. Brooklyn is no safer than anywhere I just named. Marine Park, Gerritsen Beach, Bensonhurst and places like that with a lot of Itilians and Russians aren't crime ridden but they are racist nasty rich kids that on occasions will fuck with you because they can. If you're black and you go to Gerritsen Beach in Brooklyn you will have a problem. Now as for Brownsville and East New York? I hate going there. I hate taking the bus there, walking there, breathing there. Bed Stuy is not as bad as it was in tthe 80s and 90s. Crown Heights has a lot more pimps and drugs than murder but my friend Brownie was shot a year ago when a guy asked him for directions and when he walked away they shot him three times in the back 19 years old smart kid no trouble or drugs minded his business. Some of you here make sense some of you don't. Whether you live in Chitown, Cali Miami or Detroit you will face problems. I've been in so much shit and fucked up situations in Brooklyn I hate to love the place. But i grew up there and it is who I am. In Brownsville there is so much gang activiyt it is ridiculous. Not all of Brooklyn is like that just like all of Cali and Chitown and Detroit is not like that. But there are neighborhoods that are very very bad and every city has at least one. Go to Brownsville and see what happens. And if you think Flatbush is so safe, I had the worst expierence of my life happen there when I was fifteen by some Folks (black flag crips)...Where ever you travel in this world don't be naaive...crime is alive and is never going to die...maybe where you have been you have been fortunate and maybe you havent really been in a "bad" area and if so maybe not long enough. Another thing. To VISIT a place is an extrememly different thing than to actually LIVE there. If you're white in Brooklyn chances are you live and hang out in a white and spanish neighborhood. Brooklyn is very segregated. Each neighborhood is broken up. I'm sorry but I'm telling you right now you just don't see no white girls strolling around East New York and if you are white in East New York and you have good chances of something happening to you more than in Coney Island or Marine Park. Coney Island has alot of tourists but there are bad areas just like anywhere. It's one of the sfare areas of Brooklyn but Brooklyn in itself has areas where I would never send my mother grocery shopping. If you couldn't send you'r mother or your children there it's not safe. The school system sucks the worst and thats what actually makes Brooklyn so bad. You can go to a school in a good neighbrohood but it will be filled with kids from a bad one and thats 90% of schools there. They're all drop out factories...depends on where you go and minding you're business sometimes doesn't help. Like i said Miami or Alabama evreywhere has a ghetto don't deny it but don't dwell on it either. That's life and it will never change.

Krista: 27th May 2011 - 00:17 GMT

And also...people say Detroit, Chicago Cali Miami etc ectc are so bad...but if I were to visit there for a few days to a week, what do I really know? hwat can i really say? i have no right to say whether it's bad or good because I don't live there and haven't been there long enough to really know how life goes on everyday over there. You can't say shootings go on everyday if you're not there everyday. If you don't live in place you're really in no position to say how living there is. Visiting is not the same as living. And people who live in Beverly Hills will not have the same opinion of California as people who live in East LA. By the way i have friends from Crenshaw compton and Sout Central who have lived in both New York and Cali nd not just New York but the actual bad places like Harlem and Brownville and East New York and they say it has it's differneces but both are relatively the same...they are all ghetto...different shapes and sizes a ghetto is a ghetto and if you don't live in one or by one then don't worry about it. Not all of Cali is bad, not all of Chicago, not all of Brooklyn and not all of anywhere is bad. There is good and bad everywhere. thats all.

Krista: 27th May 2011 - 00:17 GMT

And also...people say Detroit, Chicago Cali Miami etc ectc are so bad...but if I were to visit there for a few days to a week, what do I really know? hwat can i really say? i have no right to say whether it's bad or good because I don't live there and haven't been there long enough to really know how life goes on everyday over there. You can't say shootings go on everyday if you're not there everyday. If you don't live in place you're really in no position to say how living there is. Visiting is not the same as living. And people who live in Beverly Hills will not have the same opinion of California as people who live in East LA. By the way i have friends from Crenshaw compton and Sout Central who have lived in both New York and Cali nd not just New York but the actual bad places like Harlem and Brownville and East New York and they say it has it's differneces but both are relatively the same...they are all ghetto...different shapes and sizes a ghetto is a ghetto and if you don't live in one or by one then don't worry about it. Not all of Cali is bad, not all of Chicago, not all of Brooklyn and not all of anywhere is bad. There is good and bad everywhere. thats all.

Krista: 27th May 2011 - 00:20 GMT

Now a place like Jamaica, Africa and Arghanistan...they laugh at what we call dangerous

Krista: 27th May 2011 - 00:30 GMT

Some people just have had worse expierences in life at a certain place than others. Most people I know have great expierences in every place they've been or lived. Some people have had great and safe expierneces in Miami, Detroit, Chicago, California and New York. Others have had some horrible and dangerous lifestyles. Others have been through some rough times. Bad things happen to some people. Some people just get lucky. Just because you happened to be lucky to go unharmed doesn't necessarily make a place "good". There are many people from LA who have not joined a gang who are intelligent, talented or great athletes and they obviously have not been harmed. Everywhere is dangerous but if you avoid it maybe for you it wasn't. One person's experince is not enough to judge a place as a whole. DC is home to the white house and many alete professionals and citizens, but it also filled with so much horror. Some people go to DC and love it. Others who actually grew up there in poverty-don't.

Krista: 27th May 2011 - 01:13 GMT

And Brooklyn is not mainly white. Most white kids that live in Brooklyn live in white neighborhoods with few hispanics and mainly never leave or venture out of their little world. If you'r white anf from Brooklyn, chances are you're racist. White people stay in their neighborhoods and blacks in theirs. For the most part with few exceptions.You have some poor white kids who werent accepted by their fellow white peers and soem blacks who have money and go to private school and some blacks who skateboard. But if you live in Bensonhurst or Marine Park, chances are you would think Brooklyn is mainly white cuz thats all you know. You probably go to Catholic school cuz most white kids from brooklyn do and you probably don't venture much further than Bay Ridge. I grew up there my whole life. I've been to every damn neighborhood literally. Coney Island and Park Slope is another plnaet when you get off the train in East New York. All the public highschools in Brooklyn are 70-85% African American with some occasionaly outnumbering in Latinos. From going all over Brooklyn. to me from what I have seen and grew up around, Brooklyn is mainly black. Even white kids are ghetto in Brooklyn. They say "nigga" more than the black kids shamefully. And any white person from Brooklyn knows that Jews and Russians are not in the same Category as Italians, Irish, Germans...Most whites don't even consider them white. They have their own neighborhoods just like Italians. You have a few Middle Eastern here and there and Chinese here and there and even Puerto Ricans are sometimes more accepted amongst the white crowd than the black and hispanic. But really? Brooklyn is not mainly for white. Now if you stayed in your little white neighborhood and go to Catholic school it is but there are so many black neighborhoods and Flatbush itself is so huge that there is no white neighborhood that can compare. Between all of Flatbush(including east), East New York and Bed stuy alone not including brownsville red hook or crown heights there are far more black people. And let's not forget Downtown Brooklyn is by far prodominetly black. Psshh.. man. By the way NYPD is corrupt and are under pressure to make New York City appear safe so crime statistics are not to be trusted. Yes, no city, not just New York , but no city in America has had as much crime since the 70's and 80's. The 90's were terrible as well. Yes all cities have improved since then. Not just New York. But you can't take the dirty cops of NYPD word for that. They don't give you accurates. I can't even name all the murders and crimes I know that police have ignored. When I stayed in East New York for a few weeks...cops would drive by shooting like nothig. They don't care about murder in the hood. They care about money. They care abou drug busts because thats where the money is at. Thats it. They can't report accurately cuz they don't do their jobs and their dirty. Thats not speaking for all cops now but thats is a majority. So to the tourists and visiotrs I'm glad you had a good experince. To the peopel who have lived in Brooklyn but in a good neighborhood you really don't know much and can't say anything about ghettos or crimes. And that goes for ANY city and ALL cities. If you don't live there and you don't have to grow up there shut up. No matter where you're from. I don't wanna hear someone from a mansion in Michigan teling me how Detroit ain't that bad. You don't know and if you happened to be lucky enough to not endure a harsh lifestyle bravo. psssh man smmh

Mel: 3rd Jun 2011 - 10:41 GMT

I was living in Brooklyn as a student there for four months. When I was walking around Flatbush I got the impression that black people were racist towards white girls. This black guy once looked at me and said to his friends "why are all these white girls walking round Brooklyn... I dont understand". I also got comments like "hi snowbunny" and "hi snowflake". Its as if some of these people have never seen a white girl before, and its just sad. They dont need to make such a big deal it doesnt matter what colour your skin is! I ALWAYS got commented on when simply just walking down the street minding my own business. They said things like "hi beautiful" "hi sexy" and many more, and although it was very flattering, I soon realized they were only doing this to convince me to give them money or sex.

Robert: 4th Jun 2011 - 13:22 GMT

To Jayne who started this article, after five years and after all that's been said here, I'm really willing to know if you are now living in Brooklyn and working in Coney Island. You haven't responded to any of comments since the the beginning of this discussion...

Robert: 4th Jun 2011 - 13:23 GMT

To Jayne who started this article, after five years and after all that's been said here, I'm really willing to know if you are now living in Brooklyn and working in Coney Island. You haven't responded to any of comments since the the beginning of this discussion...

anon (50-14-168-253.nyc.clearwire-wmx.net): 5th Jun 2011 - 08:35 GMT

Wrong. I live in Cypress Hills, Brooklyn. More than half the neighborhood is Hispanic (mostly Puerto-Rican) followed by Blacks than Asian (Guyanese). We all get along fine. Most of my best buddies are Hispanics. As for the Brooklyn demographics - face the facts! Brooklyn is mostly made up of whites! With a significant increase in the Hispanic and Asian population. Brooklyn is 36.9% White, 32.9% Black, 19.6% Hispanic, etc. Do your research. A lot of the Hispanic immigrants move into the black neighborhoods where as the Asians (Chinese) move into the white neighborhoods. Blacks and Hispanics get along fine in Brooklyn, esp in the Bronx where more than half the people are Hispanics followed by Blacks.

Robert: 5th Jun 2011 - 13:19 GMT

Anonymous, I really don't know to whom you meant your reply, but it has nothing to do with the question I asked Jayne, the lady who started this article and never wrote again.I guess you're referring to Krista or Mel the one who's sore for being called "snowbunny"or "snowflake". Don't know why she should be mad for being called snowbunny, because that name is so cute and so funny...

Mel: 6th Jun 2011 - 07:35 GMT

Anonymous, I am not Hispanic im Australian. Some of the blacks got on very well with me but a lot of the time I felt like I was offending them just by being there, as crazy as it sounds. But thats the impression I got, maybe because they felt like certain areas of Brooklyn should belong to blacks? I was NEVER racist towards them it doesnt matter if your black or white. I was living in Church Avenue and about 90 percent of the people around that area were black. The rest were Mexican or Asain, not many white people at all.
Robert, I just dont see why it was necessary for them to make comments like that. They sound pretty racist to me.

Manhattans finest: 7th Jun 2011 - 06:21 GMT

Look if you want to know the stats go here. Plain and simple. It will show you the stats of the area. These area may same rather safe during the day- then pow! Reality hits.

file:///Users/theodorethomas/Documents/Brooklyn,%20NY%20Crime%20Map%20-%20Showing%20Crimes%20in%20Brooklyn%20-%20Crime%20Statistics,%20Alerts%20and%20Reports%20-%20Crime%20Stops%20Here.webarchive

anon (50-14-168-253.nyc.clearwire-wmx.net): 7th Jun 2011 - 06:51 GMT

My mistake. I was responding to Krista.

brooklyn finest: 11th Jun 2011 - 18:13 GMT

its pretty simple, you do not live where you do not fit in, you would not throw a cat in a ring with dogs cause that cat is gonna get his ass waxed. does not matter what race or color you are, you have to live where you are comfortable and the mix is right and the area is right or you know what you are not gonna be alright. its the law of averages, you play with fire you will get burned. find a nice neighborhood where there is a mix of race, not one dominant one, no white person is gonna live in bedstuy and no black person is gonna live in howard beach you know what i mean, i like the village or williamsburg type of envirnonment, where people are all different colors and creeds and they are just plain cool having a good time

Robert: Very wise comment from Brooklyn finest...

brooklynguy: 14th Jun 2011 - 08:11 GMT

i really don understand why there are so many white girls walkin round brooklyn. do they do it jus to get guys attention coz they know black guys will hit on them?? they don belong there the area is considered lower class they should go somwhere they fit in you know wha im sayin.

shay: 22nd Jun 2011 - 13:57 GMT

I'm from detroit and I want to visit new york so bad. I want to see the good and the bad. I dont know where to start. I read n some of the urban books how some cities are so hood and as weird as it sounds I wanna visit I also want to visit coney island and times square how far apart are they?

Robert: 23rd Jun 2011 - 01:54 GMT

Shay, my advise is that you should visit NYC through and through, you'll never regret it.
But first you should get information from books and maps to get acquainted with the place and
that way, you'll know where and how to go to the places you previously select.

MarcySTandup: 24th Jun 2011 - 03:13 GMT

@shay very far lmao.. u gonna have to take the Q for like 18 stops

MarcySTandup: 24th Jun 2011 - 03:13 GMT

@shay very far lmao.. u gonna have to take the Q for like 18 stops

MarcySTandup: 24th Jun 2011 - 03:13 GMT

@shay very far lmao.. u gonna have to take the Q for like 18 stops

MarcySTandup: 24th Jun 2011 - 03:13 GMT

@shay very far lmao.. u gonna have to take the Q for like 18 stops

MarcySTandup: 24th Jun 2011 - 03:13 GMT

@shay very far lmao.. u gonna have to take the Q for like 18 stops

MarcySTandup: 24th Jun 2011 - 03:13 GMT

@shay very far lmao.. u gonna have to take the Q for like 18 stops

MarcySTandup: 24th Jun 2011 - 03:13 GMT

@shay very far lmao.. u gonna have to take the Q for like 18 stops

MarcySTandup: 24th Jun 2011 - 03:13 GMT

@shay very far lmao.. u gonna have to take the Q for like 18 stops

Robert: 24th Jun 2011 - 15:14 GMT

Marcy, I'm sure Shay got your message and won't forget about the 18 X 7 stops!

Showstopper: 25th Jun 2011 - 00:07 GMT

my advice would be stay out of East Flatbush, canarsie and brownsville those are the most fucked up pieces of shits neighborhood to be in.

Showstopper: 25th Jun 2011 - 00:07 GMT

my advice would be stay out of East Flatbush, canarsie and brownsville those are the most fucked up pieces of shits neighborhood to be in.

Showstopper: 25th Jun 2011 - 00:07 GMT

my advice would be stay out of East Flatbush, canarsie and brownsville those are the most fucked up pieces of shits neighborhood to be in.

shay: 25th Jun 2011 - 08:37 GMT

thanks everyone for the advice what are some good clubs and reasonable hotels also a good time to come?

anon (c-67-183-62-12.hsd1.wa.comcast.net): 3rd Jul 2011 - 22:29 GMT

I'm trying to find an inexpensive apartment in a safe neighborhood close to transportation to the financial district. I live on the west coast and it seems impossible to figure out what neighborhoods are close and safe and inexpensive. I'm going to school and will be coming home late many nights. I'm also a woman. Where do you recommend I look? Geesh, I'm going crazy over here trying to figure out all the areas of NY. Help!

Anthony: 15th Jul 2011 - 04:41 GMT

Well for one thing Brooklyn is pretty diverse but somewhat segregrated. Many neighborhoods have a large percantage of one race, while many have a large percantage of two races. Thou you're not going to find a huge percantage of whites, blacks, asians and Hispanics all in one bunch (thou that's slowly beginning to change in some neighborhoods). Just a lil' race background info... In NYC, whites are the majority, followed by Hispanics, followed by blacks, followed by Asians. In Brooklyn alone, Whites make up the majority, followed by blacks, then Hispanics, then Asians. My neighborhood is pretty diverse thou, Hispanics make up the majority followed by blacks followed by more than a good handfull of South Asians (Cypress
Hills).

I'm a 57 year old resident of NYC.

anne: 15th Jul 2011 - 10:51 GMT

I am trying to find a very cheap apartment to rent in Brooklyn for 1 month. I only want something that I can rent for under $200 a week. Is this possible? Where abouts in Brooklyn is best to look? I would really appreciate some help.

christpher: 26th Jul 2011 - 07:33 GMT

um there are some places in bed stey but it is a little dangerous there. straight juss like biggie smalls left his hood not much has changed

anon (CPE00222d2e92fe-CM00222d2e92fa.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com): 28th Jul 2011 - 22:30 GMT

Hey I'm a black canadian girl going to Flatbush and the canarsie area to visit family, I've been to newyork multiple times as a child but now I'm 17 and realize what a different place it is from my safe neigbourhood here in Canada. Are the areas I'm visiting that bad, I'm scared because this time I will be staying without my parents... Help me!!!

Barrack Obama: 30th Jul 2011 - 03:19 GMT

Brooklyn's full of niggers...enough said. A nigger is like an animal, lay around doing nothing but eating and looking to steal or hurt things that can give them food or pleasure. Stay away from this nigger infested land. Let thme kill each other instead of white people.

EvilGentleman: 31st Jul 2011 - 02:38 GMT

To the person who posted the blatantly racist comment at 0319 GMT, July 30, 2011:

A person's worth can be best defined by their positive contributions to society. Having said that, it is obvious that, at this particular point in time, you are a worthless piece of shit. I hope one day, you learn to find the treasures within yourself that all human beings possess, and that you can bring yourself back up to the level of productive human being.

And for the record, although it should not matter, I am half White and half Native American.

hg: 13th Aug 2011 - 15:29 GMT

I have to say 2 things about this entire thread. First, its interesting how the responses started with "no, it's not dangerous, just watch your back" and "it's perfectly safe, just act like you know what you're doing" and "violence is everywhere" other such nonesense. I agree with the one poster - New Yorkers get used to it so it seems perfectly natural, which they mistake for safe. Actual safety involves low risk. Elsewhere in the world you can walk looking like you have no idea where you're going and being perfectly out of your element and still be actually safe. So anyone moving to New York and asking about areas that are questionable, know that there will be an adjustment period where you will have to get used to a certain elevated amount of danger. I think what those posters were trying to say is that just because there is elevated danger doesn't necessarily mean it will happen to you. It's risk, and risk can be mitigated with common sense, but it can't be eliminated. You can, however, choose to live in an area where it exists in much smaller quantity.

The second thing that is interesting is that the responses have changed significantly in the past 2 years from the first two years. The later posters seem to mostly agree that there are areas you might want to stay out of. I recently did some volunteer work that for all intents and purposes toured all the areas of Brooklyn people mention as unsafe. The vibe is definitely different there. I don't feel that vibe in Manhattan, the parts of Queens I have been to, or the parts of Brooklyn not mentioned as unsafe in these postings. Most of the "undesirable" areas were fine, maybe just a vague sense of hardness. But there were definitely at least 2 projects that I can't say that about. Alarm bells rang loud and clear in those spots and I came home glad I didn't have to hear those bells every time I walked out of my door. For the rest of my life I will carry a certain amount of compassion for those people who don't have that luxury. It just doesn't seem fair. Regardless of fair, I can't help but wonder if something has changed in the last 3-4 years. To the more recent posters, has Brooklyn changed or just the willingness to admit risk?

For the OP or any other asking the question about safety, do your homework. And if you can afford an alternative, don't move into an area that puts you at elevated risk. There isn't much you get in return for doing that.

hg: 13th Aug 2011 - 15:41 GMT

oh, and one more thing. Safe + inexepensive + convenient doesn't exist anywhere in NYC. You are going to have to give up at least one of those things.

E: 27th Aug 2011 - 14:16 GMT

Look I'm white I moved to brooklyn 3 yrs ago I went from living in brownsville and attending hunter college to living in east ny and running out stealing my Chinese one night when an Indian girl got killed in front of the Chinese spot on euclid. I had the voice front page on my wall it was a Chinese takeout box with bullet holes and blood dripping said takeout.on euclid. Then I was homeless for a while and shit happens when u have autism I was mad naive so I trusted everyone I considered friends. They all fucked me over. But its ight because I ended up doing armed robberies with people just because im so convincing. LK + BLOOD had a peace treaty and I had a king n bloods on my side I was always selling drugs . I get along wit everybody except women because they always get jealous bc of my looks and I'm don't think I'm amazing but I gotta wearr my headphones in the streets or ill stop and argue wit ppl for disrespectin me. I ended up in a lot of fights with black chicks from age 18-20 went in n out of jail for walking out of stores with huge rolling luggage cases acting like a tourist and selling every bar.of dove soap from the stores on 125th to the bodega 2for5 just for money. Robbing people pretending to be cops with the boost fone push talk shit and a fucking $5 vendor license display necklace with an expired pba card. I was sellin dope n hard eventually ended up in shelters and then I had a seizure in port authority so I live in bushwick now. People don't disrespect. Why? at first u see me n think I'm.some stupid girl in the wrong fuckin place, but if I open my mouth you gon b shocked. I love the hood n da hood love me no matta how much bad shit happened like I just was arrested for taking my seizure pills in public the cops tried to say I was selling my seizure medicine.. so there u have it if u come here u know what could happen, and nothin could happen. But if I seen u walk-in I'd rob ur pocketbook in a minute. Mad love from wBushwick ave

BKLATINO: WTF!!!

rer: bitch shut up and stop telling lies. seriously...

Bkzkidd718: 24th Sep 2011 - 03:48 GMT

i live in bushwick in the projects borinquen plaza....i'm 18 and i've seen and been thru alot of shit that my life isz traumatized..i've seen shootings in the basketball courts, stabbingsz in elevators and etc...when i wasz young like 9 i experienced my first jump by a gang of 5 in the basketball court...projectsz aren't the place to raise decent kids...i've been thru alot of street shit...respect isz hard to build in a hood...my hood still don't change

DAVE: 4th Oct 2011 - 01:10 GMT

I'll make this simple. I never lived in brooklyn. I am an out of town suburban white boy. I do love new york city. I started to go to brooklyn for the rush. I wanted to see every bad thing there was to see just from all the stories that hyped it up. I wanted to view poverty and escape tight situations lol. I ended up getting lucky a few times. I have walked and taken trains and driven most dangerous neighborhoods of brooklyn. Each time I encountered trouble lol. I dont think its that bad based on how many people live there and what they have to go through. There are to many young punk kids though. Its gotten cleaned up and I see alot of cops. I would never move into a low income ghetto or project building. You only do that when all you own is your life. Most people move in there and work and plan to move out as soon as possible. I think alot of the people there are illegal to begin with and they already did bad shit in their country thats why they are crazy and dirty. I like alot of the old black people, they are kinda cool. The graffiti and rats are cool too. I would say 40% of Brooklyn is Not worth living in if all you like to do is work eat and sleep. Check SaveBrooklynNow.Blogspot.com for some shocking issues. Black on Black. Never ends..

Icepick: 10th Oct 2011 - 02:08 GMT

aYO Most of all is talkin about brooklyn is stupid...i live there all my life and seen some bad bad things.. if u just walkin and mind yo business...but if you in a crowd ayo most likely 9 of 10 it probably be some shootin and stobbin or gettin jack, most cats on talkin about brownsville and bushwick and bedstuy and flatbushand east ny and bad...they fuckin stupid but its always a dead body layin...u might not heard about it but it goin on under yo nose..i know so many fucked up dudes out here its crazy they would body ya over 25 cents...if u dont look for trouble you cool...but its still a ricks that u takin walkin there past 12 at night... these people thats talkin all that ishhh about brooklyn aint bad...thats bcuz they home body..but alwyas keep yo head up when u come through the hood...and thats all i have to say..because people in the hood gets stupid and they kellin each other over nuffin....and robbin and kidnappin and all that...just becareful at 11pm and u be cool. and stay away fr the hood and the bad parts..crimes never stop they just multiply.. just be safe and keep cool and youll iight..

Icepick: 10th Oct 2011 - 02:09 GMT

aYO Most of all is talkin about brooklyn is stupid...i live there all my life and seen some bad bad things.. if u just walkin and mind yo business...but if you in a crowd ayo most likely 9 of 10 it probably be some shootin and stobbin or gettin jack, most cats on talkin about brownsville and bushwick and bedstuy and flatbushand east ny and bad...they fuckin stupid but its always a dead body layin...u might not heard about it but it goin on under yo nose..i know so many fucked up dudes out here its crazy they would body ya over 25 cents...if u dont look for trouble you cool...but its still a ricks that u takin walkin there past 12 at night... these people thats talkin all that ishhh about brooklyn aint bad...thats bcuz they home body..but alwyas keep yo head up when u come through the hood...and thats all i have to say..because people in the hood gets stupid and they kellin each other over nuffin....and robbin and kidnappin and all that...just becareful at 11pm and u be cool. and stay away fr the hood and the bad parts..crimes never stop they just multiply.. just be safe and keep cool and youll iight..

Sal: 13th Oct 2011 - 17:06 GMT

@ DAVE: You been to the South Brooklyn neighborhoods? Sheepshead Bay, Bensonhurst, etc?

The best part of Brooklyn is Ditmas Park. Large, colorful houses you'd only see in the country. Very tall tress. Highly suggest you visit this area. Google image the area and you'd swear its not in Brooklyn. Check it out.

Sal: 13th Oct 2011 - 17:06 GMT

@ DAVE: You been to the South Brooklyn neighborhoods? Sheepshead Bay, Bensonhurst, etc?

The best part of Brooklyn is Ditmas Park. Large, colorful houses you'd only see in the country. Very tall tress. Highly suggest you visit this area. Google image the area and you'd swear its not in Brooklyn. Check it out.

Vanessa: 15th Oct 2011 - 06:50 GMT

My friend was stabbed and killed in BK not too long ago but he was from the Bronx..a girl I knew was shot and
Killed in Pensacola, FL..and a kid from my
Neighborhood in Manhattan was stabbed and
Killed in the Bronx. My childhood friend got shot at in his car in Midtown Manhattan..I know people who live in the worst projects who have never been touched. Enough said. Doesn't matter where you are anything can happen you can't be afraid.

DAVE: 19th Oct 2011 - 02:22 GMT

@ Sal: I have been there.. I do enjoy 60% of Brooklyn I consider Fun and Safe for most people.. I just don't recommend 40% of brooklyn to people who are just looking to live comfortably.. I will always go through the parts other people consider rough though. For the rush!! =)

kris: hi

aaria: 16th Jan 2012 - 19:54 GMT

So glad I didnt catch this post years ago.....to the bumb ass that started this.....I live in brooklyn born and raised...and im black...never had a ploblem until the white rapist started moving in.....so tired of u whites thinking ny is the worst of the worst.....killings, rapes and more happen all over country....how dare u....get a life...

milkyway: 19th Jan 2012 - 02:05 GMT

ok that was a little rude some people just want a second opinion on these kinds of subjects even if u were born and raised there some people worry about this topic walking around town esspecially brooklyn which I've heard has a bad rep. even if all over bad is spread whatever I'm done reading this blog

Caroline.R: 23rd Jan 2012 - 05:20 GMT

I seriously think that black people need to stop being so racist. I am white and stayed in Brooklyn in an all-black neighbourhood for 2 months because of study. I found that black people seemed to make such a big deal about someone just coz they werent black. Whereas everyone else were able to accept different races. It doesnt matter what color your skin is, where all human beings and we should be able to live together. Blacks dont have to be so offended by whites and asains!

Killakidd16: 27th Jan 2012 - 22:30 GMT

I just started working in Brooklyn (flatbush area) doing paper route about a month 1/2 ago I start work around 430ish and sometimes don't stop till 3am if you mind your business everything's cool there's always that occasional drunk or some1 asking for directions/change (looking like your lost n dnt know anything about where you are doesn't help) though the places I'm in are more Jewish some routes are alil rough seeing gang signs tagged everywhere (CRIPS) the most but honestly its just like every place else you gotta watch you back n what you say... I'm from NJ

Penny: 8th Feb 2012 - 04:13 GMT

Why the fuck do white girls always dress like fucking sluts around Brooklyn?? Its incredibly stupid when theres sooo many disgusting old creepy men around with sick dirty minds, as if they want that kind of wrong attention. Wake up already!!!

Aloha: 8th Feb 2012 - 17:28 GMT

Women have a right to dress however they like. It's the "disgusting old creepy men" who need to learn how to control themselves accordingly.

Penny: 15th Feb 2012 - 05:04 GMT

whatever im just questioning why they wouldnt dress like normal people instead of someone that just walked out of a strip club??!!!

Brianna: 28th Feb 2012 - 19:52 GMT

Im italian lol. I'm not trying to be ignorant, but based off of soo many comments i just read, i wanted to make sure, from an AFRICAN AMERICAN's point of view ,if i was to go to east new york, for one day to visit a friend of mine, what are the chances of me getting killed, or hurt, etc.?

Brianna: 28th Feb 2012 - 19:52 GMT

And im 16 years old, i'm 5'4, & Im thick in the legs, but somewhat slim in the waist.

Steve: 1st Mar 2012 - 05:06 GMT

@Brianna What part of ENY? Cypress Hills, ENY is mainly Hispanic (Puerto Rican and Dominican) followed by Blacks (usually Jamaicans). There are a few whites (Italian, German) in that area, very few. It's a rough neighborhood but as long as you don't look lost you'll be alright.

larry: 2nd Mar 2012 - 20:28 GMT

this is what all yall sound like u want to hear so here it is!!...u shud not move to n

yc!!! its dangerous!!!!!

Penny: lame...

Lo: East New York, end of story.

cleo: 19th Mar 2012 - 10:15 GMT

Can I just ask a question... I am a young white girl and I went to Brooklyn last year. Almost EVERY time I would walk passed a group of black guys they would just burst out laughing for no apparent reason. Do they really find white girls THAT hilarious? Its so rude, coz us white people dont have a problem with what race or skin color you are, only black people make such a HUGE deal out of it when its not even nessecary!!! TALK about rasist!!!

larry: 26th Mar 2012 - 22:22 GMT

depends on the way you walk or carry yourself I guess. If you have that "I'm better than everyone else look" I'm damn sure gonna laugh at you along with the rest of the guys.

cleo: 27th Mar 2012 - 02:32 GMT

So is that the only reason? Wow I would NEVER think im better than everyone else... I have such low esteem why do people always get the wrong impression? You can help that way you walk or carry yourself... so I would basically be getting laughed at for somthing I cant help?? Thats so stupid how can people even find that funny? Unless their laughing because they think im ugly... well thats just slack get a life build a bridge and be thankful you dont have to be as ugly as me!!! Cant they find somthing better to do?

cleo: 27th Mar 2012 - 02:55 GMT

oh and stop JUDGING by the way someone looks!!! You dont know WHAT their thinking!!!

Torch: 3rd Apr 2012 - 10:22 GMT

I don't wanna sound like an empty shell, but I've been doing a lot of reading on NY, Brooklyn etc, as I will be staying there mid year, June/July, only for a month. I 'was' planning to stay in Flatbush, Prospect Park or the Fort Greene areas, or possibly anywhere else in Brooklyn. From reading every comment on here, and other info I've read elsewhere, I'm getting the picture that during the day it's okay for walking around, but night time is a different story. I know it must be better to speak to people to who actually live there, who know the place and understand it, but, being from the other side of the globe, I don't know anyone in NYC, which sux. Oh, just for the record, I'm a 31yo guy, 6"1, half black (Pacific islander), half white, but my friends think I look kinda Hispanic. I guess I'm curious if a lack of street knowledge, coupled with my ethnic background, would make me a likely target for those who can pick out travelers etc. I'd hate to be caught slippin'.

Just curious: 5th Apr 2012 - 04:29 GMT

I grew up in East New York and moved out to Texas, big change. The only thing I can say is the people of Brooklyn keep to themselves unless you provoke them. Don't go around showing bling, or cash because you would get robbed immediately. Those were my memories, not a very good one.

cleo: 12th Apr 2012 - 02:43 GMT

Will SOMEBODY please explain to me about what I said about 3 comments ago??!!! I want to know why black guys seem to have a great big stick shoved up their ass all the time, and feel the need to take it out on people who have done NOTHING wrong... talk about unescessary and rascist!!! They are the ONLY type of people who cant seem to handle someone with a different skin colour!

Ayo: 13th Apr 2012 - 15:06 GMT

This thread started in 2006 and still going damn!! hah nice!
I was just down there in Brooklyn all over the place doing market research.. There were many parts of town where it looked dangerous..
if you aren't black or latinos i think it's a bit dangerous..
Just don't walk by urself.. or at night. and use the main roads

White coco: 15th Apr 2012 - 04:29 GMT

So lately I have noticed alot of black people are moving into marinepark and it freaks me out because I. Obviously live here I once got stalked by a black guy in his car and I'm in my early 20s and this is so bad I'm use to haveing all white neighbors now I have like 3 black neighbors this is creeping me out I'm not racist I just prefer all white ....just saying insaneee

Prospect Park: 18th Apr 2012 - 20:40 GMT

Most of Prospect Park is very nice. Anywhere from 6th Avenue and up to the Park is pretty good... but expect to pay high rent. 4th and 5th avenue is a bit "adventurous".

3rd Avenue, while not the worst place to live, is really not the best.

Stay away from Red Hook, and the projects there.

bed stuy nigga: 27th Apr 2012 - 01:43 GMT

Lil white bitch ya come thru ma parts and you'd wish ya did stay yo cracka ass where ya wuz. Day or nite I send rounds at cha ass. All dem fools talkin we b in all the so called bad part. Yo asses must b retarded and talkin out yo ass. I'll b watchin fo u brave mafuckas now!!!

TEASEO BOMB SQUAD: 27th Apr 2012 - 04:12 GMT

BROOKLYN is soft full of hipsters WOODSIDE gets it popin real talk. Shit is mad real out here in Queens. I'm starting an online graff crew for dudes who don't have any paint. Hit me up on Facebook . I'm trying to plan a Tripp to great adventure in June.

Rick: 4th May 2012 - 09:01 GMT

Yo,
I moved long ago but return often. you out of towners, beware !!!!!!!!!!!
The place is constantly changing. Only a fool would want to live in East Brooklyn. White and moving near Bed-Sty, bushwick, good luck. All I'll say is you're really pushing your luck.

Eretz Hcm: 11th May 2012 - 06:33 GMT

If U think Brooklyn is dangerous then ur retarded. Don't believe all the shit people say. I've lived here my whole life and would never change that for the world. Certain places can be alittle sketchy but as long as u mind ur business ur fine. We're else could u find public housing down the block from a 1.5 million dollar condo. And the hipster aren't from Brooklyn. There a bunch of transplants. And if ur afraid of black people moving into marine park ur a jackass. I grew up there and I'm white. I don't live there anymore but I have black friends who live there. Stop playing the race shit. Real Brooklyn people live in harmony no matter what race. That's what brooklyn is about DIVERSITY. BK all day. P.s. If u think u gonna get jumped by going to the hood then there is a good chance u should get jumped.

Daul Prew: 22nd May 2012 - 05:52 GMT

Yo fk this shiit man. I bet none of you fecking pussies ever stepped outside yo nice neighbourhood in Queens or Brooklyn or Bronx or wherever the furk you darn pussies live. You talk about dis precinct being ruffa than dat precinct you mothfks don't know jack shiit. Any of yo wuffdas never got yo ass down to Salford Precinct (now known as Salford City Shopping Centre- editor's note) to check out MY hood? Yo all talking bout race and class and shiit. In Salford we don't give a ferk bout none a dat shiit. I bust yo ass no matter who da ferk you think you is, know what I'm saying.

You might think dat fools forty maybe even into science and wears glasses when he drives but he don't giv a ferk bout who you are he's gonna bust yo ass big time fella. My arms don't discriminate know what I'm saying. I'm a tickle every motherfker comes to Salford. Ain't gonna be no one who ain't giggling when I'm finished wriggling. I'm a tickle the world and spread love and shit, dude. I'm a make you smile whoever the fk you thInk you is.

Rundering: 23rd Jun 2012 - 14:20 GMT

Brooklyn is a safe area to live at. Just stay away from certain parts of it like ENY/and Bed-Sty. I've seen a couple of people get robbed and killed over by ENY. Be careful anywhere though.

NewYorker56: 26th Jun 2012 - 03:58 GMT

Brooklyn is fine anywhere during the daytime. I would def stay away from Brownsville and ENY at night. Worst place I have ever seen is Camden, NJ and Newark. Makes the worst neighborhoods in Brooklyn look like disneyland.

Ax: 29th Jun 2012 - 01:35 GMT

I know Brooklyn very well. Brownsville and East new york are definitely the worst and I doubt it will ever change. Bushwick and Bed stuy are also bad, but they are not as bad as they use to be. I was very suprise when I recently visited a neighborhood in East Flatbush; it was far worst than most of the other neighborhoods I been in in Brooklyn. Living in crown heights, I realized it changed a lot and having lots of friends in Coney island I also realize its slowly becoming better. Canarsie also has its bad parts, but it isn't the worst in my opinion these are the worst in order
Brownsville/ East NY
Bed stuy/ Bushwick
East Flatbsuh
Crown heights/ Coney Island
Canarsie
Parts of fort greene/Red hook projects
Parts of sunset park
Bronx maybe smaller than Brooklyn, but the crime rate is almost as high.

Nick: 2nd Jul 2012 - 18:37 GMT

lol Do any of you know what you're talking about? Camden and Newark had less murders combined then all of Brooklyn. You kids make me laugh. 515 murders all of last year and 1800+ hit from gunfire not including the ones who never went to the hospital which is many. Been to Camden, Been to Newark and Been to Philly. Philly has almost 200 less murders than NYC. All the damn cities in the U.S have less murder rates than they used to and way less murders. New Orleans only had 199 murders last year, around the same as Brooklyn so if you feel New Orleans is bad then Brooklyn is no different. I bet half of you if not all saying Brooklyn is safe are people living in nice neighborhoods. All your phony stories saying nothing will happen to you in Brooklyn. Tell that to the 225 people that were killed in 2010 or the 200+ killed last year. Stop frontin, you talk this shit behind a computer but any REAL New Yorker will see you've never been to the hood. Lets see you call New York safe in front of people living in those neighborhoods. It's not bad like it used to be but still worse than you people say it is. I moved to Buffalo from Brooklyn. They say Buffalo is worse than NYC, such BS. I have yet to get into shit living here for 2+ years. All I remember living in Canarsie was gunshots from the Glenwood Houses, sirens blaring almost 24/7 and the occasional police chopper flying overhead shaking the apartment. It's one thing to visit and another to actually live there 15 years since birth. Stop mistaking Downtown Brooklyn and Manhattan for the rest of the city.

Nick: 2nd Jul 2012 - 18:54 GMT

BTW New Yorkers are quick to pick out of of towners. Every year I hear about someone from another city getting gunned down. I swear you're a bunch of retards. Between the beginning of 2001 and the end of 2011, 6144 people were murdered in NYC. Between 1985 and the end of 2011, 29000+ people were killed. Compare that to Chicago's, 5549 murdered between the last 10 year period and the 17000+ people killed from 1985 to the end of 2011. Safe? Yeah in a wealthy area you outsiders think is the "hood". The problem is you all think you live in or near a hood and I bet you live nowhere near them. The ones who do are the ones who know shit happens and anyone can get got at anytime. Like those 13 people shot 2 nights ago. With 6 of the 8 shootings being in Brooklyn 2 of which were Triple shootings, 1 in Fort Greene and the other in Brownsville. And Harlem is a big example about how unsafe NYC is. Did you know they barricaded Harlem because of all the shootings? Not sure if they took them down yet but they were up for a few weeks. But whatever, you think it's safe until you see the shit I saw first hand. Kids getting jumped, chased down the block with blood all on them, gun shots ringing in the early morning, and this was daily for me.

Brklyn21: 4th Jul 2012 - 06:32 GMT

Well according to DNAinfo, the most crime ridden neighborhoods in Brooklyn are East NY, Brownsville, Bedstuy, Bushwick, crown heights and East Flatbush.

MsShanina: 17th Jul 2012 - 02:24 GMT

I am a white female who just got back from BK. I was visiting my bf who is black and went to his bball game in Brownsville. Although I was noticeably the only white person around - other than a few stares when I walked in the gym..everyone seemed cool. Although my bf did suggest we drive there instead of taking transit to avoid the inevitable comments of he and i walking around together..sad but true.

Anon: 29th Jul 2012 - 08:56 GMT

In order starting from worst to last I will name you the worst neighborhoods in order.

Brownsville/Remsen Village
East New York/New Lots/The Junction
Bedford Stuyvesant
Crown Heights
Bushwick
East Flatbush
Red Hook
Coney Island.. it's not what it used to be. but i'd avoid going down towards west of stillwell ave
Sunset Park


The best areas? My opinion would be...

Bay Ridge
Brooklyn Heights/Ditmas Park/etc.
Dyker Heights
Manhattan Beach
Parts of Midwood around Avenue J-ish
Mill Basin


I can tell you being a BK Native myself from bay ridge, going to the northeastern part of brooklyn is like going to a different planet.. but then again about 95% of stuff you hear about it is just paranoid people on the internet lol

JASON: 2nd Aug 2012 - 07:22 GMT

http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-05-21/news/31804257_1_gun-violence-east-flatbush-shooting-victims

Acording to this article, East flatbush and East new york are the most crime ridden neighborhoods right now

anon (pool-173-76-89-116.bstnma.fios.verizon.net): 2nd Aug 2012 - 11:21 GMT

I lived and worked in Brooklyn for most of my life. I graduated from Brooklyn College and NYU Poly (PhD). I am an African American with one daughter and a godson. They graduated from Brooklyn Tech, Brooklyn Law, and other NYC universities. I know what I am talking about. Like any city in America you have to be careful. If you are afraid of Black people then do not come to Brooklyn. The smartest people you will ever meet live in Brooklyn and they are black West Indians znd Africans. You may not know this because of racism in America. Not every New Yorker is a as dumb as Trump or Romney.

vivi: 6th Aug 2012 - 09:37 GMT

I had visited a 1BR apt today on knickerbocker ave/starr st, its right by the Maria Hernandez Park (AKA Bushwick Park) and close to the Jefferson STN. How safe is this neighborhood? I'm a 30 yrs old Asian female, would walking back home from Jefferson STN be dangerous at night (say around 10pm-ish)?:/

swimmer: 15th Aug 2012 - 15:59 GMT

well. i am a 25 y.o pale as hell white Turkish female not even American. and i go to Crown Heights almost every night and sometimes early morning because I use the recreation center there. I go to swim at night and leave the place around 10 pm. And this has been going on for over a year. I haven't yet seen anything crazy as y'all talking about here. Yes, it is totally different than my neighborhood (Bensonhurst)i live in for 8 years. But I haven't even seen a street fight yet. Just once a "Rasta" tried to talk to me and I told him i had a boyfriend and he left me alone. Now I see him as I walk by all the time and say a polite "Hello." That was the only experience I had with people there. Same thing with East Flatbush, I had a boyfriend lives there and I used to go there pretty often and sometimes would walk back to the train alone at 2-3 am (because my boyfriend didn't know any better).and I haven't witnessed anything there either. It's either i am very lucky or I have been to the good parts of these neighborhoods or you guys are just exaggerating a little!

anon (cpe-065-191-056-065.nc.res.rr.com): 17th Sep 2012 - 11:37 GMT

hello, i haved lived in Coney Island my whole 27 years I am also a white mid twenties female , Coney Island is definately dangerous, what i can say is get to know any business owners on your walk from train, car, or bus and always say hih this way they know who U R n before you know it you will love it as much as I do don't let NE one tell U other wise, don't let that stop U from your dreams.In Coney Island respect is earned I grew up on west 23rd between mermaid n surf I

Doug: 26th Sep 2012 - 08:37 GMT

To Nick: first off when you compare crime rates between Brooklyn, Camdem, Philly, etc., you don't compare the total murders as the population of Brooklyn is much larger than those cities. Brooklyn has over 2.5 million people, where Camden, NJ has only 75,000 people. You have to look at violent crimes per 1,000 people and Brooklyn is 6 per 1,000 giving you a 1 in 175 chance of being a victim. Camden is 24 per 1,000 giving you a 1 in 41 chance if being a victim so Camden is much worse than Brooklyn. In fact Camden crime index is 3 with 100 being the safest. Brooklyn crime index is 41. Not even close to Camden in any way. Newark Crime is much closer to Camdens rates than Brooklyn. So you have no clue as to what you are talking about.

Ajay: 21st Oct 2012 - 01:02 GMT

I've been around parts of Brooklyn recently and you definitely can keep it... well most of it! There are a few cool pockets here and there, I love the artsy/hipster types(true hipsters), some cool bars - I forget where I was though. Overall though I don't like Brooklyn at all. No disrespect to people from there but most of the neighborhoods are filthy and terrible. And I'm sorry when you have high concentrations of low income blacks and that always means crime, crime everywhere. The apartment buildings stink, and the people are the rudest, nastiest, scuzziest people on God's green Earth!

Erertzhcm : 21st Oct 2012 - 18:23 GMT

^^^^^^^ to ajay. Go fuk ya self. You hipster queer. Your a racist tight pants, bad glasses wearing, awful bearded douche. I'm not black but how could u say low income blacks =crime.. Brooklyn ain't about black or white it's about unity.. I got friends of all races.. And us brooklyn people are only rude to dickhead hipster like yourself that come from rich white suburbia and try to clam Brooklyn for themselves. Bk all damn day everyday............

Erertzhcm : 21st Oct 2012 - 18:23 GMT

^^^^^^^ to ajay. Go fuk ya self. You hipster queer. Your a racist tight pants, bad glasses wearing, awful bearded douche. I'm not black but how could u say low income blacks =crime.. Brooklyn ain't about black or white it's about unity.. I got friends of all races.. And us brooklyn people are only rude to dickhead hipster like yourself that come from rich white suburbia and try to clam Brooklyn for themselves. Bk all damn day everyday............

Erertzhcm : 21st Oct 2012 - 18:23 GMT

^^^^^^^ to ajay. Go fuk ya self. You hipster queer. Your a racist tight pants, bad glasses wearing, awful bearded douche. I'm not black but how could u say low income blacks =crime.. Brooklyn ain't about black or white it's about unity.. I got friends of all races.. And us brooklyn people are only rude to dickhead hipster like yourself that come from rich white suburbia and try to clam Brooklyn for themselves. Bk all damn day everyday............

Erertzhcm : 21st Oct 2012 - 18:29 GMT

Sites like this should unite all of us Brooklyn peeps no matter what race. We need to take our city back from these awful, culture less hipsters and not worry about this race shit.. And if u still believe Brooklyn is so dangerous google 100 most dangerous cities.. We are no where on the list.. BROOKLYN STAND UP!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cleo: 23rd Oct 2012 - 10:23 GMT

To Eretzhcm: I am a white girl not from Brooklyn however when I have been staying there I find people are very rude to me just for being there and being white, even though I have absolutely no intension of "Claiming Brooklyn for myself" or being racist. I just mind my own business and I believe we are all human beings so skin colour really should not matter. People need to get a life and stop being so judgemental. NO ONE can possibly own a city. Its a free country, isnt it? I just dont understand the rudeness when it is at people who are not hurting anyone. Not necessary.

Cleo: 23rd Oct 2012 - 10:23 GMT

To Eretzhcm: I am a white girl not from Brooklyn however when I have been staying there I find people are very rude to me just for being there and being white, even though I have absolutely no intension of "Claiming Brooklyn for myself" or being racist. I just mind my own business and I believe we are all human beings so skin colour really should not matter. People need to get a life and stop being so judgemental. NO ONE can possibly own a city. Its a free country, isnt it? I just dont understand the rudeness when it is at people who are not hurting anyone. Not necessary.

PITTMAN:OCT/24/12: 26th Oct 2012 - 01:13 GMT

BROOKLYN IS GREAT.BROOKLYN IS CONSTANLY CHANGING. MOST PLACES DO NOT CHANGE. BROOKLYN WILL ALWAYS BE "BROOKLYN"...EVERYONE HAS HEARD OF IT AND FINDS ITS HISTORY FASCINATING

Eretzhcm: Cleo. I could care less

Eretzhcm: Cleo. I could care less

Cleo: 13th Dec 2012 - 02:03 GMT

Eretzhcm: Then dont say anything in the first place. And get a life. Your obviously a fucking robot with no feelings AT ALL.

Cleo: 13th Dec 2012 - 02:03 GMT

Eretzhcm: Then dont say anything in the first place. And get a life. Your obviously a fucking robot with no feelings AT ALL.

Aimurat: 3rd Jan 2013 - 01:50 GMT

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Eretzhcm: 17th Feb 2013 - 20:59 GMT

Hey Cleo if u think we are rude here in Brooklyn then keep ur white country ass at home. I'm white and never have any problem with "being White". They probably looked at you weird because you probably never seen a person of color before. Cracker ass cracker

Cleo: 18th Feb 2013 - 07:58 GMT

seriously... your weird. You cant just tell people where they shouldnt or should go. And dont be racist when your white yourself or labwel mwe asd "xcountry"... wehwen im not. And I HAVE seen a lot of people of colour I love black people its just sometimes they are rude to me for no reason.

Cleo: 18th Feb 2013 - 08:04 GMT

whatever... these people who are rude have great big sticks up their ass ALL the time anyway. And their obviously just jealous, otherwise they woulnt say anything rude at all. Its so sad. End of story.

Ryan: 29th Mar 2013 - 21:18 GMT

hey guys i was just looking at google maps for brooklyn and if u look closely u can see a guy getting cuffed on 46 linden street bushwick brooklyn new york usa

Cleo: lame...

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View for Rent


What kind of a view does £300 a month get you in this town? This kind, that's what. Much nicer than the view i used to enjoy from my first floor* maisonette on a run down housing association estate. * American readers:...

View for Rent

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