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[previous] :: [next]I drove through Kingston last week, and I passed Canada's super-maximum federal penitentiary, which is located there. The architecture of the old stone prison is so reminiscent of an old British fortress, which I think it once was.
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Peter: 20th Apr 2006 - 13:30 GMTwow, awesome! good thing for you you were just passing by ;) an interesting read: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingston_Penitentiary Peter: 20th Apr 2006 - 13:37 GMTalso: www.csc-scc.gc.ca/text/facilit/institutprofiles/kingston_e.shtml EvilGentleman: 27th Apr 2006 - 15:38 GMTAs you can see in the first pic, any prisoners attempting to escape will have a mop bucket and a squeegee thrown at them. I think that would hurt a lot, especially if it's still full of water when it hits. And those squeegees sometimes have sharp edges... EvilGentleman: 7th May 2006 - 00:41 GMTThe shots with the sailboat also show Olympic Harbour, where the sailing events for the 1976 Montreal Olympics were held. Just imagine the view the guards must have had from the watch towers. Linda: 23rd Nov 2006 - 03:40 GMTI really liked the shots.I look forward to taking a drive out there myself. I am actually going to school right now in order to work in the field of "Corrections". I might want to work in Kingston, after I get some experience in the other facilities. :): 10th Dec 2006 - 00:21 GMTLinda KP is a good place to get your feet wet if you suceed in your goal. jess: 26th Dec 2006 - 19:42 GMTjust thought id let you know that the kingston Penitentiary is haunted... if you go to season 2 of creepy canada it gives you the ghost story... just thought you would like to know, i found it interesting ron m: 5th Mar 2007 - 20:44 GMTI was working at KP when the olympics were on and you couldn't "Buy" a posting in any of the towers, it was reserved for all the"Bosses Kids".
sue george: 22nd Aug 2007 - 22:31 GMTmy grandfather was assistant warder circa 50,s his name was Thomas Curry Cook would like to hear from anyone who knows any of my family in Canada. Lived in Bellevue as far as I know.
Michelle: 2nd Jan 2008 - 13:44 GMTIf you really want to learn more about the history of KP -- obtain a copy of the February/March, 1991 issue of "The Beaver" Magazine which details life in the prison during the 1840's. The article is titled "So Irksome and So Terribe" by Peter Hennessy. ! : 14th Jan 2008 - 00:33 GMTim am currently doing a school project on kingston pen. if anyone has any interesting info please let me know ! thankss . chanze: 9th Mar 2008 - 21:49 GMTi was in kingston this weekend and that place is huge and scary looking i would hate to be in there! jamie: 27th Mar 2008 - 16:18 GMTI love old prisons and I was in Kingston recently and got some pictures of this place...I wish they did tours of the inside, but that would not be safe...very interesting history of this prison. anon (bas4-kingston08-1177944934.dsl.bell.ca): 15th Apr 2008 - 01:36 GMTI live in Kingston and the building is just as scary as it looks. when you walk passed it you feel the strength of it's walls. dirana1: 16th Apr 2008 - 22:52 GMTYou have got to be kidding me. Does anyone out there know the history of the place? It was British, you at least have that much right. However, it was originally and continues to this day to be a prison; most of which was built by the prisoners living within it. The reason we don't (Because I work inside as a guard, front line staff) do tours is just that, as 'Jamie, 2008' stated, it's too dangerous. Everyone must remember that it is a 'maximum security prison' for men, not that women are any less dangerous, but men have that nuance of being worse. As for '!' from 14 January 08, if you're doing a project on KP, I'd be happy to talk to you, as long as my 'real' name isn't used. It's a frightening place, and it's also a haunted place, but those of us, like myself, who have been there for a time, and I'm a newbie by all means at 10 years there, we've come to grips with that which we see, and that which we feel and that which we know is there, and we still continue to walk through those opposing front gates and go to work, to keep everyone outside those large limestone walls safe from the horrors inside them. Take care, All the Best. dirana1: 16th Apr 2008 - 23:04 GMTPS EvilGentleman, there's more to a tower at KP than an mop and a squeegee believe me, I myself would have a couple of rounds of the indigenous firearm in the tower fired if someone tried to go over the wall when I was on duty in a tower. You may want to find out a little more information about the institution and the people whom go there every day to protect the Canadian public before saying something like that. I don't disagree with what you are saying, I'm just saying there are those of us, and I am only taking responsibility for my own words as a Correctional Officer, that take huge offense to what you are saying. We're not well equipped by any means, and yet, like Canadian Soldiers in any theatre of operations, we get the damn job done to the best of our abilities. If no one likes what I say, I really don't care, because I've done ten years of being a Correctional Officer, a female in a male jail, and I'm retired Military and proud of it. You want to take a walk inside, maybe you should talk to me, and I can tell you something that happened outside those stone walls that changed my life forever. EvilGentleman: 17th Apr 2008 - 19:21 GMTdirana1, thank you for commenting. I can respect your opinions and your insight into the prison is a welcome bit of education for the rest of us. I am certain you know a lot more about the background of KP than the rest of us, unless there are a few former inmates reading this as well. As far as your being offended by the squeegee and bucket joke, tough cookies. Grow a thicker skin, I refuse to change for anyone. But just to put it in context, it is obviously a joke that uses irony to defuse a serious issue, since any fool knows that you guards at KP have to be heavily armed with deadly weapons. I mean, it is a maximum security prison, after all, and most of the people inside have done some really horrible things to wind up in there. I am thankful for the job that you and the other guards do, and I will continue to crack jokes about things, because that is a central part of my personality. Smile. I know you need to keep some aggression with you in order to better survive your work environment, but please leave it at work. It would be interesting to trade stories with you one day at a local watering hole. My experiences do not include very many people of the caliber that you work with, but I have 6 years experience guarding prisoners at the local jail in a small village in the northernmost reaches of Arctic Quebec. The jail most often functioned as a drunk tank, but we sometimes got some rough trade in there. Mind you, my prisoners were only allowed out of their cells with police escorts. Compared to a fully trained and qualified Corrections Canada Correctional Officer, I am sure my work was more like semi-advanced babysitting, but I can at least understand the general concepts of which you speak. The prisoners who had the worst reputations for being psychotic always behaved themselves very well around me, and I believe that was due to the fact that I neither feared them nor looked down on them, which earned me some respect, among both prisoners and police. They used to ask for me by name, in fact. This was despite the fact that I was the strictest guard for following the rules. But the "quiet" customers were the ones who would drive me up the wall, as they would sometimes go completely berserk, and do the damndest things. I did have one prisoner go a little haywire and extremely aggressive one time, when the Quebec Minister of Justice dropped in for a visit. Mind you, when government ministers decide to visit prisoners in jail, they should expect these things. But that is why cells have bars on them. Well, at least they did in the old jail. The new one has steel and security glass walls. I never had a prisoner escape from me, although the other guards had lost a few on different occasions. Being in an isolated Arctic community with no highways, I never understood the point of their trying to escape, since there is nowhere to hide. I did have a few attempted break-ins, but that is a different story. Being a small police station with two one-man cells (that once had to hold nine prisoners), there are always problems with people trying to bust in and steal the drugs from the evidence lockers. I had to guard female prisoners sometimes, so I can appreciate some of the difficulties you may have faced, although I am sure a woman who is in jail for 1 to 10 days is nowhere near as sexually aggressive as a man who is serving life. But I still got some bizarre propositions every once in a while. I grew up on Canadian military bases, usually living in officers' PMQ's. My family has a strong military background in both the Canadian and American militaries, with a lot of war experience. I personally was a Mohawk Warrior during the Oka Crisis of 1990, and wound up faced off against a number of my childhood friends from the bases I grew up on. They are still in the military today, and are still close friends of mine. One of them is hoping to be accepted for his third tour in Afghanistan. And to cap it all off, my wife is an ex-cop. So if you want to talk to me one day, I am up for it. I am sure it would be an interesting conversation, and although I may not have the specific set of experiences you have had, nor dealt with the level of aggression that you have (although I have stared into the barrel of an assault rifle held in the hands of someone who truly wished me dead), I am pretty sure we can find a good number of things in common to discuss. And once again, thank you for your work. Airdog101: 1st May 2008 - 23:00 GMTdirana1, i was wondering if you or anyone else would be able to give me some insight on how to become a Correctional Officer. Was there any special schooling you go through or did you do sometime in the military? thanks, EvilTinkerbelle: 12th May 2008 - 07:19 GMTPFFFTTTTTTTTTTT. kingston pen SUCKS ASSS !!!...im happy im done with that place cat: 26th May 2008 - 18:59 GMTdirana1, I was under the impression that they had closed off a section of the pen. and they had tours open to the public, am i wrong? Big Dog: 6th Jun 2008 - 12:40 GMTHa! KP is not open for tours. As for becoming a CO (CX1), you just have to keep an eye on the federal government web site (jobs.gc.ca). Positions are usually only posted for a couple days. All you need is a high school diploma and some kind of experience dealing with the public (i.e. security guard) and you'll advance to the written testing. A related post-secondary degree helps your score. Get through this phase and you do the sit down interview. Pass that and you begin the three month, unpaid, Core Training Program. Graduate from 'Core' and they place you at an institution. I'm a guard at KP and enjoy it. The money's good and the staff's friendly. It can be stressful at times, but if you have good coping skills and thick skin you'll be fine. I've never seen a ghost but I have heard some stories... Pete: 2nd Jul 2008 - 15:10 GMTQuestion for Big Dog, or Dirana, im a recent university graduate interested in applying to be a guard. MY previous roommates would smoke marijuana and i have concerns about it being in my system. Im looking at applying for a current position but I am concerned about this. MY question is whether or not I would be screened for marijuana? Thank you Dylan: 28th Jul 2008 - 13:06 GMTKingston pen surely isnt open for tours.. when you go to visit yur family.. that gate makes you feel like your not leaving. AND YES YOU WILL BE SCREENED FOR DRUGS!! they will even drugtest your hat. plus the visiting room has this microphone that looks like an upside down cake tin.. so dont be silly bfuman: 20th Aug 2008 - 03:34 GMTtrust me when i tell you kp is not the place you want to call home for any length of time, parole violaters get a one or two night stay over from the don in toronto, but when they leave kp for there designated "new home" they all and i meaan all thank God, they aint spending another ten minutes in there....it is the worse the absoult worse. BUT dont forget to be housed in such a hell hole you as well must meet the guidlines of being the absoult worse as well, kp do not house "GP" or anything below maximum classified inmates,,,,just the sick ones the real sick ones.......take care. oui: 27th Oct 2008 - 04:20 GMTKingston Pen Yes it is haunted, and to EvilTinkerbell I am glad we did our job, and you don't plan on comming back. rehs: 12th Nov 2008 - 19:55 GMTwondering if anyone has a phone # for this jail.... theres a guy inside there thats using my name to get credit and large loans! It took a bit of doing but I found out he's in there! And I am also wondering how he can apply for this "credit" from inside?? jo jo: 6th Dec 2008 - 23:38 GMTmy husband in Kp and its not as terrible as the oyther ones i do conjecal and spend time and he s not in there cause hes a rat or a goof just maximum offender and its not scary its a walk in ther park so dont dis it EvilGentleman: 7th Dec 2008 - 00:00 GMTThanks, jo jo. Your insights explain a lot of things about maximum-security prisoners and their spouses that I had always wondered about. Now I know. WILLY: 9th Dec 2008 - 21:48 GMTcan you tell me how to find out which range someone is in and if you are sending them a letter do you need to know that information? thanks ferguson.179978c: 22nd Feb 2009 - 15:42 GMTrtc. the psychiatric unit of kp is an awesome place to do time..the coppers are all ok and the nurses are mostly great except the nazi kane bub: 2nd Mar 2009 - 18:24 GMTDiran1, I'd be interested in hearing what happened there to change your life. KP has particular meaning to me. curiousgeorge: 30th Mar 2009 - 15:17 GMTi was wondering what happens to child molesters in kp...i have heard in jails prisoners torture or kill offenders like that..what is life like for THOSE offenders? dooowhopbopbadoowhop: 31st Mar 2009 - 19:29 GMTTell me the ghost stories, I'm in the process of getting a job and the possibilty of ghosts scare me...... ?????? John_S: 22nd Apr 2009 - 19:23 GMTcuriousgeorge....to youtr question...ya diddlers dont have a nice time, but having done a 10-bit myself for "respectable crime" if there is such a thing, I realised that the armed robber that kills a bank teller aint no hero cause he shivs a diddler. You sometimes hear bout "put him in gereral pop...they'll take care of him as if they are good guys. They ain't. The hard ass that kills a cop, a teller, sticks a neighbor or does a million dllar fraud aint no here cause he ices a diddler jean: 3rd May 2009 - 14:23 GMTthis place kp is rat infested shit hole for rats and goofs and didlers if you are in on a bad beef they send you to that goof jail mf1967: 9th May 2009 - 11:51 GMTMy ex is in KP serving 12 years for attempted murder, and he has told me lots of stories of drugs being sold in there, and ever since cigarettes have been banned they are also being smuggled in and sold. If the visitors are searched thoroughly, and so are packages, then how are these drugs getting in? There have been investigations of KP guards in the past, one of which killed himself due to the fear of ending up in prison himself. I'm sure that the majority of the staff at KP is legit, but obviously the drugs and cigarettes are getting in somehow. On another note, I was on the phone with another inmate’s girlfriend, on a three way call.. She met her new boyfriend while visiting her ex who is doing time in KP. The new love of her life is serving a life sentence with no possibility of parole. She has moved with her kids to Kingston in order to be closer to him. Do some people really have no brains? How is a so called mother, going to uproot her kids for a man like that, with which she obviously will never actually be able to have a life with outside of the prison walls? I don’t get it! toxic: 9th Jul 2009 - 05:08 GMTwell i now know that place aint closed though i thought it was if not haunted why the story of the guy who killed gards then him self? an why do they say theres tours if theres not? one last question what horrors really happend an happen in front of KP
did time too: 20th Aug 2009 - 10:12 GMTSpent a many nights and days behind those for walls. 8 yrs.Reid wash your mouth. you goof. One last thing the days of solids is long gone .... got a nephew inside in Millhaven and its all punks now, do you think guards are super intelligent, far from it, kites and rats. They are every where. Even in the Biker World, read the papers. Ps, there are ghost in KP, noises and cries in the nights, souls lost friends killed themselves. Believe it................ anon (CPE00222d1e482d-CM00222d1e4829.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com): 23rd Sep 2009 - 20:43 GMTmy husband is in for two months for one beer my god life is crazy hes done 21 years got out 2007 march i met him from my brother ha now have a baby boy now 6months cant wait till hubby gets out november 30 yeay Does it work?: 30th Sep 2009 - 23:08 GMTI sawin one of this guys comments that he was from KP. So, I guess it worked. I don't know Diane C Spitz: 16th Oct 2009 - 21:22 GMTIf anyone has any old photographs from the Kingston Pen circa early 1900's I would love to see them. My Grandfather was employed there and the family lived across the street form the place. My son works in Corrections in TX and I know he would love to know more about the history of the prison. I would love to hear from any Carrigans, Mills, or Davenports living in the Kingston area. Thanks. dclspitz@yahoo.com help needed please: 3rd Feb 2010 - 04:05 GMTwhats the number for Kingston Pen to find an inmate? how do i go about visiting someone inside do they have to fill out a form ffirst or is that for coonjucal visits only, and is there any form of transportation that will bring me from brampton to kingston pen? sara: 16th Feb 2010 - 23:32 GMTthe kingston pen is vary old. one of the inmates there is paul bernodo he is a crepp.... Mz Mona: 10th May 2010 - 20:38 GMTI would just like to say that I have a man who is in KP as we speak. to the guardz, holler at me please :) sadie: 22nd Jun 2010 - 01:10 GMTi'm just wondering out of curiousity, do you have to be a family member in order to visit someone in KP. or say, i'm doing a research project on someone in KP, would i be able to go in and visit? write to them? :) thank you you're an idiot?: 28th Jun 2010 - 02:26 GMTKingston Pen is for low lifes, rapists, and scum of the Earth.. it is a maximum security place.. nobody goes in to visit for research because such would reward the scumbags by allowing them out of their cells. poohbear: 29th Jul 2010 - 09:00 GMTright across the street from the Kingston Pen, is the Penetentry Musuem. It's located in the old wardens house. It's open to the public, very interesting and it's free (donation only if u want) Rewrite: 6th Aug 2010 - 15:50 GMTI am a writer doing research for a short fiction. Would it be possible for the mother of a murdered teen to visit the killer in Kingston Penitentiary? On a regular basis? Question-: 7th Aug 2010 - 16:28 GMTSome of the people that commented are trying to get a phone number or an address for the KP inmates in order to contact. But, I realized that non of you have the info or do not wish to disclose it. Please, who ever has info on how to be able to send a letter or even call to contact, or the visiting rules as well since I'm a friend.I would really appreciate it .Thanks alot. Reality Check.: 16th Aug 2010 - 04:49 GMTThere are homeless elderly, orphaned kids and the VICTIMS of the heinous crimes of these federal convicts, if you have some excess of support and resources you need to dole out. Far from t.v, the douchebags behind the walls are living life on the installment plan by their own poor choices and lazy, entitled habits which they repeat ad nosium. The history and apparent mystery of KP may entice your curousity, but as for its inmates...the glorification is in your own mind. Filthy, addicted, unintelligent lowlifes who work for nothing and rely on taking from the people who do. Do you seriously have NOTHING better to do with your time? Do yourself a huge favour and rethink this one... Mz Mona: 26th Aug 2010 - 15:50 GMTAgain ppl I see are still talkin fuckery out there assholez.. a friend: 25th Oct 2010 - 18:59 GMTKingston penitentiary is a maximum prison not a super max, the super max is in Quebec also known as the SHU, special handling unit. Ann: 5th Nov 2010 - 08:29 GMTNot all are dumb, ntelligent and unemployable. Russell Williams (ex Colonel) is there. I'm so sorry for the victims, the victim's families and for Russell Williams. What a dreadful thing to happen to all of them. And for Russell Williams, he had everything to lose but it was clearly a mental problem, or he simply would have resisted. I have a son, there but for the grace of God go I as a mother. Very sad :( Nee: Mary Elizabeth Pedder: 14th Apr 2011 - 18:46 GMTI was born & raised at Cedarhedge, now the Museum across the road & up the hill from the North Gate. I have numerous good memories & a few bad ones of my life there. Dad was the Plant Engineer for the prisons. Once, when I was about 8, I stole a pencil sharpener from the Drug Store in the Bay....of course, I got caught! Dad put me in the holding cell inside the gate for 4 Saturday mornings saying, "this is where theives end up".....scary for a kid! But, it worked, I never stole anything again! I often went into the Women's Pen on the weekends to help the Farmerettes collect eggs for the kitchen. Evelyn Dick was assigned to escort me when I was wandering about & I really liked her even though she was a lifer having killed her husband & baby! I wonder what Queen's will do with that facility now? It's make a great Dormitory for students! :-) anon (bas6-london14-1088923503.dsl.bell.ca): 7th May 2011 - 17:30 GMTNeed to know if anyone out there knows where you can get a tv that meets the jail requirments, no usb port or service port,and a 15 inch screen have tried sears, best buy, future shop, canadian tire and tiger direct and walmart what's left? anon (bas6-london14-1088923503.dsl.bell.ca): 7th May 2011 - 17:30 GMTNeed to know if anyone out there knows where you can get a tv that meets the jail requirments, no usb port or service port,and a 15 inch screen have tried sears, best buy, future shop, canadian tire and tiger direct and walmart what's left? anon (bas6-london14-1088923503.dsl.bell.ca): 7th May 2011 - 17:30 GMTNeed to know if anyone out there knows where you can get a tv that meets the jail requirments, no usb port or service port,and a 15 inch screen have tried sears, best buy, future shop, canadian tire and tiger direct and walmart what's left? No Sympathy: 12th May 2011 - 23:56 GMTAnyone who is in this whole deserves to be there....dothe crime, pay the time. Rot in hell you low lifes. Uare: 12th May 2011 - 23:59 GMTThey should reward anyone who's able to kill Bernardo with a release....hope he gets punched out daily by the guards. Carly: 10th Jul 2011 - 20:38 GMTTo answer some questions posed: 1. Someone provided the address for Kingston Pen[scroll] or I am sure if you addressed an letter to Kingston Pen, KIngston, Ont. it's get there. Add the inmates name to outside of envelope. If they are there, they will be given the letter, if not it will be returned. 2. For the fiction writer- a mother of murdered child could visit the killer in prison unless there was a court order imposed such as no contact from the killer. She would need to be on his visitor's list as the inmates have a right to approve/deny visits. 3. Not all inmates at KP are there for sadistic or sick crimes. KP is simply a maximum security prison so it houses max security inmates, which can include cop killers and other criminals who are not particularly sadistic or sick[like say Olsen or Bernardo]. 4. Guards do not need to be particularly educated and in fact are usually people who fail to meet criteria to be cops. I mean really, who wants to be a prison guard when they grow up? No one ! 5.To buy any equipment that meets requirements- Ask the pen staff,they'd know.
shocked by your replies: 13th Sep 2011 - 19:44 GMTwow, some of you are really mean. honestly, yes there are some disgusting and horrible people in there but my friend is in there now for getting into a fight with someone and they were BOTH drunk and my friend is huge and muscular i dont know why someone would start a fight with him but anywho.. the other guy kept calling him on and he tried to walk away but the guy wouldn't stop and my friend pushed him and he fell over the side of a birdge- although fully recovered minus his sence of smell.. he doesn't deserve to be there. but i guess the judge felt he did. what is the rules and regulations on visiting :S? what is a conjecal visit? how does that work etc.
ohhh olive: 27th Oct 2011 - 18:32 GMTEraser What Is Upppppppppppppppppp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????//
Anti-Admin: 28th Oct 2011 - 16:12 GMTthe pen is actually small like compared to the new york ones we have here
anon (mobile-166-137-136-152.mycingular.net): 30th Oct 2011 - 21:05 GMTJail sucks and should be avoided at all costs anon (dsl-173-248-246-240.acanac.net): 17th Jan 2012 - 03:11 GMTHow would you go about getting on the "visitor's list" to visit and inmate? Tanker: 17th Mar 2012 - 19:01 GMTWhat is the deal for visiting an inmate if you are married with kids, is it true you can stay for weekend visits? What is the aloted time you are able to spend with the inmate? richard rickard: 27th Mar 2012 - 07:14 GMTyeah i have a brother whose in there....his name is robert john linklater...whats is the address there any ways sago: 27th Mar 2012 - 22:41 GMTI am not sure where people get the idea that everyone in there are bad. I will agree that there are quite a few whom are but there are a few whom just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time and since they already had a record,,off they go. Also not all the guards go in there as a job. Protect us out here from inmates,,who are going to protect the inmates from those guards who go in there and think that no one in there is a human being and insist on treating inmates worse then most of us treat our farm animals. Yes they might have done something wrong but they are still human and some if are treated with respect will give guards all the respect they want. Remember no matter what not only is our tax money going to house the inmates it is also going to pay the guards and all staff of that place or any other. Help the men/women learn how to life a good life and teach them what they need to know and it is possible that they can and will stay out if the officials on the outside leave them alone also WONDERING: 1st Jun 2012 - 18:24 GMTwhen the pen closes it doors, will it then open up for visitors?
joey: 3rd Aug 2012 - 16:21 GMTi take my hat off to any of the gards i couldnt do it i thank you all for keeping us safe Comment on this article..[previous] :: [next] |
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