The Waterside

ian: 18th Nov 2005 - 15:02 GMT

It has eerie similarities with the "The South Will Rise Again" culture you see in parts of the US -- confederate battle flags on the backs of pick-up trucks, automatic distrust and hatred towards cities and their citizens, reactionary right-wing politics, and, of course, point-blank racism. I'd like to put them all in a blender. Make biodiesel.

hottie: 18th Nov 2005 - 16:34 GMT

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elaine: 18th Nov 2005 - 16:36 GMT

gosh, you're all about making the world a better place, aren't you 'hottie'?

Jamie: 18th Nov 2005 - 16:49 GMT

In reply to ian though, automatic hatred and distrust is a very very eloquent way of putting it. In a nutshell so to speak. And naturally, such narrowmindedness goes hand in hand with point-blank racism. Intolerance breeds intolerance whatever it's roots.

Peter: 18th Nov 2005 - 17:41 GMT

for those of you who dont know, ian is referring to this sort of thing (which you would have to be ver ystupid to display, nowadays):

jack: 18th Nov 2005 - 18:54 GMT

have you great britainers heard of the group, bristol fashion. its played on the bbc radio. yes, the south will rise again and madonna will be the new presodent. by the way have you seen her lately. isnt there a time limit on some of these aging, no voice singers.

Peter: 21st Nov 2005 - 15:29 GMT

oh yeah, i forgot to mention that... the image is "eddie the head" from the cover of iron maiden's "the trooper"...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_the_Head

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Maiden

gaz: 21st Nov 2005 - 15:41 GMT

it's interesting to see how these pieces haven't been got over AT ALL. No tags, no bombs, no nothing.

Peter: 21st Nov 2005 - 15:42 GMT

i cant help but notice that it was painted to look like the top corners were peeling off. strange, that.

jeeff: 21st Nov 2005 - 20:06 GMT

i have a feeling that if the wrong people saw you tagging or bombing overtop of those loyalist murals you'd probably get your throat slit. i think that's a pretty good incentive to leave them alone.

Peter: 21st Nov 2005 - 20:10 GMT

that and im sure most people in that area agree with what the mural is conveying... and ergo probably wouldnt go over it.

though if a mural like that popped up here in brooklyn, id give it merely hours before someone painted a funny face on the skeleton or put thought-bubbles around his head filled with lewdness and lasciviousness.

Andrew: 22nd Mar 2007 - 06:39 GMT

stop bashing the South - if you think we're a bunch of hicks and hate us then leave us alone. You Yankees got your own problems to dish out (like invading other countries 24/7 and trigger happy cops).

Joe: 27th Mar 2008 - 06:14 GMT

Saw this mural firsthand. Its curious how the loyalists depict themselves as some sort of skeleton soldier. My Catholic friend was giving me a tour of the area and he was scared to get out of the car. Just goes to show how deep the conflict is.

Eamonn: 5th May 2008 - 21:39 GMT

Holy crap, how can you hate Eddie like that, hottie? (fair few years ago, but still dishonorable). Also, it's not really the loyalists depicting themselves as a skeletal soldier. Iron Maiden are one of the most famous British bands, and the front cover of 'The Trooper' single epitomises it with the invincible zombie Eddie at the charge of the light brigade. If not for the British flag, saber and uniform, then the loyalists wouldn't have used it. Zombie-mummy-mascots have nothing to do with it.

American Male: 24th Nov 2008 - 17:26 GMT

Huh, racist? Protestants and Catholics are a race? Also, I've been to N. Ireland, and the same sort of thing is in the Nationalist areas, what with the PLO/IRA one struggle mural. Honestly, saying one side is good and the other bad, that's ridiculous. Their paramilitaries, Nationalist and Loyalist, have destroyed so many lives, even their own peoples. That said, as a Catholic in Carrickfergus, surrounded by Protestants, I never felt in danger, and I have found most people in N. Ireland don't talk about their politics or religion and are actually very friendly.