Cunard White Star Lines

Anonymous (85.134.136.201): 3rd Nov 2005 - 21:30 GMT

Many Years ago an Unemployed Irish man won the Lottery. With his money He bought the Local Dole office, in Cobh, and then kicked the Dole office out.

The reason he did this was that the office was the former Cunard White Star lines office. He turned it into a themed restaurant for the Titanic. after all Cobh was the last place the Titanic stopped.

Anonymous (ppp83-237-4-154.pppoe.mtu-net.ru): 3rd Nov 2005 - 22:50 GMT

you may not know, but at the titanic time 'cunard' and 'white star line' were totally separate companies.

Catherine Penfold-Waxman: 3rd Nov 2005 - 23:08 GMT

I nearly won a pub in Cobn, thanks to the Guinness company. I spent 5 days drunk in the company of 20 other contestants in a writing contest. Cobn is a really beautiful place, full of historical beyond the Titanic connection. The guy who won the pub was an unemployed artist from Boston and a really nice bloke.

Anonymous (ip68-102-41-105.ks.ok.cox.net): 3rd Nov 2005 - 23:28 GMT

That's cool. :) As someone else mentioned though, the Cunard and White Star lines hadn't merged yet.

Peter: 4th Nov 2005 - 14:49 GMT

all i know is that the sign pictured above says "cunard white star lines" on it.

as if it matters.

Anonymous (104.205.204.68.cfl.res.rr.com): 29th Nov 2005 - 15:56 GMT

While it is true that White Star lines and Cunard lines were seperate companies at the time of the Titanic accident,Both steamship compainies used the above pier due to the amount of heavy ship traffic and the depth of the river at 14th street where this picture was undoubtabtely taken!

Matt: 5th Mar 2006 - 00:04 GMT

Cunard later merged and bought out White Star Lines this pier was own by White Star but after the merger the company was renamed Cunard-White Star Lines

Pat: 18th May 2006 - 03:43 GMT

I'm doing research on the White Star Lines - the RMS Baltic, in particular. My mom was an immigrant to this country in 1928, and I'm trying to put a history of her journey together for her many grand and great-grand children. If anyone knows of pictures of the 14th St. pier and/or about the process of taking the third class (steerage) passengers to Ellis Island, I'd sure appreciate it. Thanks!

anon (dialup-4.172.150.78.Dial1.NewYork1.Level3.net): 26th May 2006 - 02:45 GMT

This was not the intended pier for Titanic. That would be Pier 60. It is true of course that Carpathia and the Titanic survivors used this pier - Carpathia was a Cunard vessel

anon : 26th May 2006 - 02:49 GMT

What is true is that this was Lusitania's NY pier - she opened the Chelsea Piers in 1907 - first ship in. At that time the sheds were sinlge story though. The Chelsea Piers were officially opened in 1910. Cunard and White Star did not merge until 1934 BTW.

July 16 History channel: 17th Jul 2006 - 00:05 GMT

Secrets of Titanic have a pix of the old pier in that show...
Blessings..
Ace's Nanna

Kyle: 4th Nov 2006 - 21:39 GMT

Is the arch that has white star on it still there? I read that it is slated for demolition?
Thanks

Mark L.: 22nd Jan 2008 - 03:08 GMT

not sure if it was up for demolition or not, but as a NYC resident i know it's still there. It's part of the Hudson River Park, and the Chelsea Piers entertainment complex.

the titanic was bound for pier 59, owned by W.S.L at the time.. Cunard owned pier 54, which was where the carpathia dropped off Titanic Survivors[along with it's own] on 20 april 1912

Allen T: 26th Jan 2008 - 11:23 GMT

I visited New York and found this Pier by accident. What a pity that NYC haven't recognised what a tourist attraction this could be by saving it from just rusting away and turning the entrance into a piece of living history especially with the 100th Titanic anniversary coming up in 2012.

Ann: 30th Oct 2008 - 03:36 GMT

I was just wondering if someone had any pics of the piers of which the White Star Line and Cunard both owned of which they can send me. I am thinking about writing a book and the pics would help me out. My address is below e-mail address

Ann McNally evilivan248808@yahoo.com
134 Center St Apt 5 Canastota New York 13032

Ann: 30th Oct 2008 - 03:39 GMT

plus is somone also has someother information about either the two companies or any of their ships can you please send me that to either the e-mail address or the mailing address. I would greatly appreciate it

Kevin: 17th Jan 2009 - 02:01 GMT

If you want information about White Star or Cunard, or the ships, wikipedia is a great resource. Here's a pic I found on the web of the chelsea piers from that time. Kinda cool

Kevin: 17th Jan 2009 - 02:03 GMT

upload didn't work, it's located at http://www.nyc-architecture.com/MID/MID-Hudson.htm at the bottom of the page.

Franny Wentzel: 14th Jun 2009 - 04:37 GMT

Dover Books has a series of William H Miller'sbooks on ocean liners and cruise ships

store.doverpublications.com/by-subject-gift-ideas-antiques--planes--trains--and-ships.html

I have four of the ocean liner books. Their 1939 NY Worlds Fair book and their NY in Aerial Photos book - all well thumbed through.

Ann: 23rd Jan 2010 - 19:16 GMT

Franny them books sounds kind of interesting what is the four ocean liner books that you have

Franny Wentzel: 23rd Jan 2010 - 19:42 GMT

I've their book on the SS Normandie by Frank Braynard and the trilogy of books by William H Miller covering Ocean Liners from 1897->1927, 1927->1954 and 1954->1986.

jacob march 28 2010: 28th Mar 2010 - 17:23 GMT

why did the people just let it go to waste? Just because some of the ship sank that is okay. i mean that is history. i just wish it would still be there .

Franny Wentzel: 28th Mar 2010 - 19:36 GMT

Actually Jacob... the piers were superseded in the 1930s by the new Ocean Liner terminal further upriver. Ships were getting longer than 1000 ft and the Chelsea piers couldn't handle such giants any more. They were still useful for smaller ships till the late 1960s when trans-atlantic passenger shipping was done in by the jetliner. At the same time containerised shipping had replaced the general cargo ships that continued using those piers.

anonymus: 10th Jul 2010 - 04:36 GMT

does anyone know what the address was? cos i need it for a school assignment

anon (ool-18b9d95f.dyn.optonline.net): 3rd Nov 2011 - 15:22 GMT

id like to know who if anyone recovered the coal ore that sank with this ship titanic , for obivious reasons , it would have possibly survived its plunge to the ocean floor , and given the tremendous pressure at that depth and the time elapsed , the coal storage bins that were used if they remained intact , would be housing the largest diamonds ever discovered to date

ptc@optonline.net: 3rd Nov 2011 - 15:25 GMT

I would like to know if that coal was recoved or being considered as recoverable , I am quite confident that a diamond or diamonds of considerable size would come from it , for a ship that contained few valuables , a discovery of such diamonds not only confirms physics but also makes titanic the most valuable sunken treasure known .

Franny Wentzel: 3rd Nov 2011 - 17:31 GMT

Coal has been recovered from the Titanic and resold. I know the writer James Lileks has a lump. However, it hasn't been turned into diamonds by virtue of having been at the bottom of the ocean. There needs to be far greater pressure - and heat - to do so.

Patrick Pavlica: 14th Apr 2012 - 07:00 GMT

The pier in the picture is NOT the pier Titanic was bound for. Titanic was scheduled to arrive at the White Star pier 59. Pier 54 (pictured) is the pier where Carpatia, a Cunard ship, docked with the Titanic survivors.

Patrick Pavlica: 14th Apr 2012 - 07:05 GMT

The visible sign of the name "Cunard-White Star" on this pier is because of the 1934 merger between the two companies. Pier 54 was a Cunard pier in 1912. White Star used 59, 60, & 61.