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Eastern Parkway Memories

- Ed Gruber - Tuesday, September 27th, 2005 : goo

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In 1905 my maternal grandparents, Fannie Schwager and Edward Wolff, were married in the then famous red room of the Willoughby Mansion at 667 Willoughby Avenue, Brooklyn. That same year they moved from Hall Street into a newly purchased brown-stone house at 347 Eastern Parkway, near Franklin Avenue.

Eastern Parkway, before it was broken up to make way for the IRT subway, was undoubtedly the loveliest street in Brooklyn. Tall stately trees formed a great natural arch over the parkway. Benches instead of being securely cemented down, were portable so that one might move them into the shade. Drinking fountains were located every few blocks so that bike riders could refresh themselves.

Both side roads of the parkway were used for horse drawn delivery wagons, while the center drive was reserved for carriages. Sundays brought the horse drawn pleasure carriages and occasional automobiles out in force. A favorite stopping-off spot on the trip to Prospect Park or Grand Army Plaza was the Bedford Rest, a large wooden roadstand at the corner of Bedford Avenue and Eastern Parkway, where beer and soft drinks were enjoyed at outdoor tables.

An outdoor movie was located just next to the Rest, where silent motion pictures could be observed in a large tent.

On warm evenings one could sit on the stoop and enjoy cool ocean breezes from Coney Island as crickets chattered. There were no apartment houses to be seen at the time and from the stoop on the north side of Eastern Parkway, on a clear evening one had an uninterrupted view of the revolving light at Sandy Hook, NJ.

Squatters populated the hilly area south of the parkway and their goats would occasionally wander up and nibble at the hedges and wild daises. At a dairy farm located at the corner of Washington Avenue and Eastern Parkway, water was pumped from a well for the chickens and cows.

As the years passed, the subway was installed. Ebbets Field and the Brooklyn Museum were built. Electric street cars and then busses traveled across the parkway at Franklin Avenue, and elsewhere. United Cigar stores, news stands, and all sorts of shops were built along Franklin Avenue. Union Temple was constructed near Grand Army Plaza and P.S. 241 was built two blocks south on President Street.

During my occasional visits back to the neighborhood, I think of Eastern Parkway of almost a century ago.

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chauncey: 23rd Dec 2014 - 17:17 GMT

,Harry, breezy point got wiped out by Sandy,Kennedys was the only restaurant and it just reopened this can be reached by car or ferry boat from Sheepshead bay .The small homes were all owned by Irish except one ,owned by a black NYPD police officer who may not have been lrish.
Sandy hook also got heavily damaged by sandy NPS is in the process of leasing the site which has many building that are in disrepair and lots of acreage ,not to mention the beautiful beaches.While in the army l was stationed at Floyed Bennet,Ft. tilden (breezy point) and Ft. Hancock Sandy hook. Each of these is now under the jurisdiction of the NPS ,the national park service.
Merry Christmas to one and all.

Lincoln/Washington: 28th Dec 2014 - 03:10 GMT

Been lots of false starts here over the past couple of years. Thread was supposed to be closed but Harry E would slip in some posts, I don't know how, and the editors would erase them and close it down again.

Lenny G: 29th Dec 2014 - 02:33 GMT

I recall the library on Eastern Parkway and Schenectady .I lived south of Eastern Parkway and did not have to cross the parkway to go there .Oh how i wish I could return to the days that I spent so much time at that branch.

Lenny G: 29th Dec 2014 - 15:12 GMT

Their hats never flew off because 90% of the time they were indoors .

Lenny G: 30th Dec 2014 - 18:19 GMT

I was in Times Square on New Years Eve in 1962.i am very happy that I had the opportunity to experience this .There is nothing like it.

Huh?: 30th Dec 2014 - 20:08 GMT

Harry E, Can't you see that all your comments are being deleted? GO AWAY!

Lincoln/Washington: 31st Dec 2014 - 16:54 GMT

Hey Harry E, you would be better off on the Eastern Parkway Forum where you can go back and edit instead of constantly posting over and over. I don't use it as I don't like the whole sign-up thing but people do use it. There is Facebook page as well. Don't like Facebook either.

Editor: 31st Dec 2014 - 17:27 GMT

Richie, I've told you many times before. ALL-CAPS comments get deleted!

Harry E and Richie: please feel free to email me at editors @ citynoise . org so we can discuss whats happening here and so that I can share a few tips with you that might help you use this forum as it is supposed to be used, and keep things on topic.

Dan Hoagland: 31st Dec 2014 - 20:40 GMT

@Editor: Staying on topic here has always been a problem, one of the many problems which lead to this thread being closed in the first place. For the most part we are dealing with an audience that is elderly and not very computer savvy.
I appreciate your willingness to put forth the effort to have this used properly.

Editor: 31st Dec 2014 - 20:54 GMT

@Dan Hoagland: Thanks for understanding. I've reopened this thread to comments once again after over a year, and hope to keep it open, which means people need to understand that making 50-100+ comments a day on the same thread- mostly inane off-topic commentary and random unrelated thoughts- just clutters up the "Recent Comments" link at the top of every page... Most regulars (besides those that simply reload this particular post) surf this site based on and it gets frustrating when thoughtful new commentary gets endlessly inundated in a flood of random "Harry E" comments.

I am happy to explain this in detail to anyone who wishes to contact me at editors @ citynoise . org - I want this site to be useful to anyone who uses it, but only if their use doesnt wreck the rest of the site. That is why I have closed comments here in the past - the arguments, randomness and bizarre personal commentary were neither on-topic nor appropriate for a public forum. This post is merely one of almost 12,000 other posts on this site, and I resented spending so much time policing it. Here's hoping that won't be the case in the future.

Regardless... You're welcome, Dan, and everyone else. Thanks for understanding... and thanks for visiting.

Happy 2015!

Janet: 31st Dec 2014 - 21:42 GMT

Thank you, Editor, for reopening. This is where many, many of us relived and also set down for posterity some of the best days of our lives. Happy New Year to all!

Editor: 1st Jan 2015 - 00:02 GMT

Harry E and Richie Rubin: Please comply with our few, simple rules or this thread will be closed once and for all. I reopened it as a holiday treat for some of the old-timers that still visit us here regularly, please do not ruin it for them.

Richard E: 1st Jan 2015 - 02:41 GMT

Parades down the parkway Lunch @ Ben & Sol's Ah I do wish I had taken some pictures of the various parades, (mostly military) when I was a kid.

There was nothing like Ben and Sols deli....there still isn't ! Eastern Parkway, I remember it well and will forever!

Happy New Year

Lincoln/Washington: 1st Jan 2015 - 16:32 GMT

I think for as long as the posters stay on topic. Speaking of which, just off the Parkway on Washington ave and St John's was Harry's deli. I used to like to take a couple of hot dogs and sit on a bench on Eastern Parkway by the Botanical Gardens and eat them there. A little haven in the middle of the chaos.

Janet: 2nd Jan 2015 - 05:56 GMT

Apart from the Times Square hullabaloo I haven't any recollection of how New Year's eve or day was celebrated when I lived on St. Johns Place in the 40s and 50s. Getting a vacation from school was celebration enough for me. I recall firecrackers being set off on July 4th but not for New Year. Anyone remember special New Year events?

chick: 3rd Jan 2015 - 05:52 GMT

Do l see some of my old pals posting here ? HAPPY NEW YEAR, glad to see you.

chick: 3rd Jan 2015 - 16:25 GMT

NEXT DAY, I`ll see if I can lure some others over here. Alan Kupperberg, his uncle David ,both from St. Johns & buffalo, Steve Solomon . I just got a request from Freddy Demarco , been looking for him for over 40 yrs.he was Rubinos neighbor and my Barbaras too.I had been best man at his wedding. Brooklyn has undergone "gentrification" in many areas but not crown heights where I lived. My black friends from that area advise that it is not safe for white folks. I read "crown heights info" on line and the crime section bears out what my friends say.

Deanna (Baime) Tibbs: 3rd Jan 2015 - 21:21 GMT

Hi, folks, Thanks for the opportunity to post here again. It's very chilly here in So. California with frost on the cars. It always makes me think of the snowstorms when we lived on Eastern Parkway. We lived right across from Lincoln Terrace Park and I remember one particular snowstorm that covered Eastern Parkway. No traffic, no school. Silence, just the sound of my boots crunching in the snow up to my knees. I was making the first tracks on that pristine snow.image 52030

My grandfather posing on another snowy day in Brooklyn in front of our appartment across from Lincoln Terrace Park.
Remembering after another snowstorm when my father pulled me on a sled to get chocolates from the Bartons that was located on Eastern Parkway at Utica Avenue between a record store and Dubrows.

chick: 4th Jan 2015 - 21:42 GMT

editor , I don`t find any google ads on any page ?

Editor: 4th Jan 2015 - 21:45 GMT

as i have already explained... scroll to the top of the page. look at the top right. look three boxes down. below the "search" is a box saying "recent discussions". below that is the advert. it changes to a different ad every time you reload. click it.

Editor: 4th Jan 2015 - 21:51 GMT

It looks a bit like this (though the advert changes every time):

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Harry E.: 4th Jan 2015 - 22:56 GMT

[Harry E, you have worn out your welcome. Please stop posting random garbage comments. I have to spend at least an hour a day deleting them. They are annoying and I'll keep deleting them. But I would appreciate it if you would just please stop]

Harry E.: 4th Jan 2015 - 23:11 GMT


[Thank you! Please do not ever return! I'm tired of constantly deleting all your inane comments! If you do ever return, this comment will be saved to remind you that you promised to leave... -Editor]

chick: 5th Jan 2015 - 22:31 GMT

Hi ,are we open for business? Janet is back she always has some interesting thoughts to share with us and she is usually very proper. Sorry if my friends caused such problems yesterday.

Peter: 5th Jan 2015 - 22:40 GMT

i, for one, would love to hear interesting thoughts... or does anyone have some photos to share?

Norman: 6th Jan 2015 - 03:05 GMT

The Library on Eastern Parkway and Scenectady Avenue was where I loved to go to get my favorite books,most of which were Biographies of Baseball Players such as the great Brooklyn Dodger Jackie Robinson,and Brooklyn Dodger Duke Snider and New York Giant Willie Mays. At PS 167 The Parkway School set me on a path of success and I graduated in 1956. Our schools in Crown Heights were magnificent for educating us. Thank You New York City Department of Education.

Hymie: 6th Jan 2015 - 03:18 GMT

The New York City Department of Education ain't what it used to be!

Otto vom Block: 6th Jan 2015 - 03:47 GMT

I used to live at the corner of Park Place and Washington Avenue. Anyone remember that block?

chick: 6th Jan 2015 - 20:42 GMT

I just posted a photo of PS 167 on FB does anyone know how to move it to here ?

Editor: 6th Jan 2015 - 20:43 GMT


Check out: or just email it to

chick: 6th Jan 2015 - 20:56 GMT

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PS 167, Eastern Parkway at Schenectady Avenue this morning.

chick: 6th Jan 2015 - 21:03 GMT

This photo is one of many taken by Alan Kupperberg on a return trip to B`klyn in July 2013. I`m hoping that he will find time to join us here . He relocated to palm Springs Ca. The library was diagonnally across the street.

thanks editor

Editor: 6th Jan 2015 - 21:05 GMT

You're welcome! Any and all photos of the neighborhood are always welcome! As said above, you can find the instructions to post them here: or simply email them with a short description to . Thanks again!

Harry E.: 6th Jan 2015 - 23:31 GMT

In his well-written intro, at the top of this site, Ed Gruber mentions the I.R.T. subway that ran under Eastern Parkway. Does anyone remember the old I.R.T. cars, with their straw-covered seats.Later, the city replaced them with modern cars, with florescent lights & comfortable, foam-rubber seats. But vandals kept cutting up those seats, so the city had to replace them with seats made out of hard plastic.But the vandals kept on writing on the new cars with their seemingly-endless supply of spray-paint. I think the Transit Authority has been trying to devise a surface for those cars, to which spray-paint can't adhere.Yes, there's reason to believe that modern science can stop vandalism!

Modern Science: 7th Jan 2015 - 01:25 GMT

I really liked the old graffiti-covered trains back in the 70s-80s, always considered it to be art. Cutting up foam seats? That's pure vandalism! But spray paint Art from kids who had no other outlet, that was fine by me. Painted trains got me to work as fast as unpainted trains, so it never bothered me. The splash of color hauling me downtown to a job I hated was always a nice respite. A lot of graffiti is garbage but some of it is truly modern Art. I think it's silly that they made public Art a felony. I really miss those colorfully painted artistic trains. Added some spice to my otherwise dull urban 9-5 life.

County of Kings: 7th Jan 2015 - 03:55 GMT

It's great to see this back online again. Thanks Editor!

Editor : 7th Jan 2015 - 04:33 GMT

You're quite welcome, County of Kings! As is everyone. Let's see some new content! Who has photos?

chick: 7th Jan 2015 - 16:18 GMT

Many of the posters on this site attended ps 167 pictured above .I graduated in June 1947. In those days kids walked home for lunch,I walked with my cousin Joyce. she lived 2 blocks further so would eat lunch in my house on Sterling Pl.Across Schnectady Av was the main shopping area for food.Most of the vendors spoke yiddish ,even Henry the black guy working at London & Fishberg produce On my block there was nearly 100 kids most were Irish then the Italians with maybe less t10% jewish Most attended St.Matthews but my school the numbers reversed and the Jews were in the majority with 90%. .I was able to learn a little gaelic ,some Italian and became quite proficient in yiddish, which amuse my friends no end. I willl look for my graduation picture and post it here. you can post yours.

chick: 7th Jan 2015 - 17:16 GMT

at 3 o clock some kids would cross the street to get a half sour from FAYE THE PICKLE LADY WHILE OTHERS WOULD FIND THE KNISH PEDDLER. The best knishes possibly in the whole world came from Silvers on St. Johns Pl.

Janet: 7th Jan 2015 - 18:29 GMT

I grew up practically across the street from Chick, but the best potato knishes were sold from a pushcart by that very peddler outside the PS 167 schoolyard. They were 5 or 10 cents and probably wouldn't get a health inspector's seal but they sure did hit the spot after a long day at PS 167 on Schenectady between Lincoln Place and Eastern Parkway (see Alan Kupperberg's photo above of our beloved Parkway School). Probably I liked Silver's later on (they came after my 167 days), but now dear old 167, Schenectady's many markets, and everything else in memory close to the St. Johns Place street where I grew up can't be beat.

chick: 8th Jan 2015 - 13:32 GMT

bernie Fox asked how many teachers can you name from ps 167 ?

Janet: 9th Jan 2015 - 01:31 GMT

Well, these were my teachers: Miss James, Farnan, MacCann, Bosco, Weingarten. There was another woman for second or third grade whose name was mentioned several times on EPM but I can't think of it. Mrs. Bosco (5th grade) and Miss Weingarten (6th grade) weren't there for long. They were very encouraging and I liked them. Mr. Allen, the only male, was a lively subject on EPM last time around, but he was never my teacher. In fact, i almost never saw him.

Harry E.: 9th Jan 2015 - 21:13 GMT

Since you listed your teachers from 167, kindly allow me to list mine, from 191: Here goes:
Kg: Miss Root
1st & 2nd grade: Mrs Strelzin ( a nice lady)
3rd Grade:Miss Hughes ( a rather boring teacher)
4th grade: Miss Plattis (the worst! barely survived her class!)
5th & 6th grade: Mrs Levine (best I ever had in 191. Nice to now be able to say
something positive!)For some reason, it seems to me that the better teachers were all married, & the worst--single & often, long-term spinsters.

Harry E.: 9th Jan 2015 - 21:17 GMT

Interestingly, from my experience with teachers, it seems that one can make a case that marriage is good for one's psyche & one's soul, & a person's general disposition.

chick: 10th Jan 2015 - 04:10 GMT

l did k-8 at 167 except 6th grade, l was on cruches and was sent to 191.ln kindergarden....miss hershey, then missForker,Pinkerton,Gordon,Andres,Tilman
mr. Allan ,Mr Clark,Miss hoynes

miss hoynes


chick: 10th Jan 2015 - 17:15 GMT

I forgot Miss James and Miss Brennan they were pals ,Miss Brennan lived on Park Pl. I painted her house when I was about twenty. Her back yard was fixed up nicely as a spanish caberet by her son who was gay and in his 30s.

Janet: 10th Jan 2015 - 18:11 GMT

Yep, I remember Miss Brennan (but not what she looked like). I seem to remember that she and Miss James (of the blue hair) were friends. Everyone liked Miss James very much--except me. She yelled at me once and I never forgave her. Here's a tale I told a few years ago on EPM. Some time before that I was teaching an evening course when a man popped in to say he'd like to sit in. During the break I learned that he'd lived on Eastern Pkway and gone to 167. Then he told a tale of how a few years before he'd been in Florida at a lecture when the speaker mentioned he'd come from Brooklyn AND 167. Suddenly a voice from the very back yelled out "MISS JAMES!" We sure do get around --or used to.

Harry E.: 11th Jan 2015 - 16:56 GMT

Well, Cowa-Bunga, Dudes! Now that there has been a huge anti-terrorism rally in Paris, maybe we can finally learn to live in peace with one-another!

chick: 11th Jan 2015 - 17:39 GMT

It would be difficult to have a peaceful realm given the disparity in educational levels . The same existed in crown heights when we lived there
and got progressively worse after the projects were built and filled with tenants of much lower education. Ps 167 has been divided into 4 schools now . Erasmus which was a showplace in our time is also chopped up. Our B`klyn is no more .Eastern p`kway where I watched many magnificent memorial day parades is now home to the west indian day parade which usually hosts 2 or 3 murders.

Modern Science: 11th Jan 2015 - 19:54 GMT

Chick: respectfully, the annual West Indian Parade is not "usually" the host of 2-3 murders. I dare you to search the news sites and tell me exactly what years hosted 2-3 murders. Sheesh. Alarmist much? Neighborhoods change.

chick: 11th Jan 2015 - 21:11 GMT

Modern Science ,it is very easiiy confirmed , just google west indian day parade/murder you will discover 5 people shot last year one died. In 2012 5 knifings 2 dead I believe 1 was killed outside a chinese restaurant under my old pool hall on St. Johns 2013. There is a map that shows crime in crown heights When I locate it again I will post it here

Modern Science: 12th Jan 2015 - 19:56 GMT

Chick: I see three deaths in 4 years. By your "2-3" murders per year math, that stat should be something tantamount to 8-12 total deaths, which is no where close to reality.

chick: 12th Jan 2015 - 22:14 GMT

modern science, that parade has become notorious for the violence associated with it.try another google :"violence at the west indian day parade". When it comes up scroll down to the article by the racist cop.
In the late 30s I would watch the memorial day while perched on my dads broad shoulders.We watched from outside ps 167 pictured above.

Janet: 13th Jan 2015 - 01:14 GMT

I remember one special parade on EasternParkway when President Roosevelt visited. The occasion I think was the 1944 Presidential election. A line of mounted police followed by the usual escort and there was President Roosevelt's limousine. I think Mayor LaGuardia was with him--but then he would have been, no? I remember distinctly the many many small American flags on the car, but I didn't get more than a passing glimpse of FDR. The car went by too quickly or I was too small. I was standing at the curb between Schenectady and Troy jammed with excited but orderly crowds, very happy, very well-behaved. Everyone cheered as the car went by, cheered from the heart. I've since seen other processions and lived through other Presidents' reigns but that very brief contact was the best of the bunch.

Harry E.: 13th Jan 2015 - 18:19 GMT

Speaking of presidential motorcades: In 1956, our Brooklyn Dodgers made it into the World Series & president Eisenhower announced he would take in a game at Ebbetts Field. His plane landed at LaGuardia Airport & he came down Eastern Parkway, towards Ebbetts Field, in an open convertible. At our lunch break, we ran from P.S. 191 to the parkway to get a glimpse of the president.

chick: 14th Jan 2015 - 22:31 GMT

This is my graduation photo from ps 167 in June 1947. Does anyone else have a graduation pic to post here ? I am the 4th from the right in the bottom row.2 of my pals from that era passed away in Dec 2013 But I am in touch with a few others as well as a few from St. matthews.

chick: where is photo 52307 ?

chick: 15th Jan 2015 - 00:27 GMT

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This is my graduation photo from ps 167 in June 1947. Does anyone else have a graduation pic to post here ? I am the 4th from the right in the bottom row.2 of my pals from that era passed away in Dec 2013 But I am in touch with a few others as well as a few from St. matthews.

Janet: 15th Jan 2015 - 01:21 GMT

Nice to see this photo again. This is a year earlier than my class. I knew so many of these kids (but not Chic) though I don't remember their names any more. BUT, my best friend Joan Schulman is at the very upper left of the top girls' row. Unfortunately her photo is scratched. Does anyone out there remember the Schulmans who lived on St. Johns and Troy? Jacky Schulman was one of her three brothers. He, Eddie, and Rich all served in the navy (days of bell-bottom trousers, coats of navy blue (otherwise known as pea coats), etc.) Connin (Clair) and Mimi were her sisters. Chic, I wouldn't be surprised if you knew everyone here by name.

chick: 15th Jan 2015 - 01:58 GMT

I do know many of them ,My cousin Joyce Felsberg is third girl from left i top row of girls. Sally detranno is nxt to her then Diane Bagdassarian. your neighbors Gilbert lichter and Mel Kussoy are in the row behind me. Walter Feiler top left corner was also your neighbor.Mrs Pinkertons son Arthur is on left end of bottom row.
Any posters here are welcome to tag anyone they recognise

Harry E.: 18th Jan 2015 - 02:08 GMT

When I was a kid, we often went to the branch library on Eastern Parkway at Schenectady Avenue. Since I lived north of the parkway, we had to cross it to get to the library, which scared us to do that alone. To get across, we'd duck into the subway& come up the stairs on the south side of the parkway.

chick: 18th Jan 2015 - 17:41 GMT

Harry ,I have photos of that library, the B`KLYN MUSEUM, and maybe the grand army plaza monument. I will ask my grandson to post them . These photos are all the artistic expressions of Alan Kupperberg. Thanks again Alan.image 52040

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chick: 18th Jan 2015 - 17:47 GMT

each time I look at these wonderful pictures I`m trasported back to that magical life of a kid growing up in our neighborhhood. All of these were within walking distance of my house ,so was prospect park and the botanical gardens.

Janet: 18th Jan 2015 - 18:01 GMT

Can anything beat the facade of The Brooklyn Museum? Just look at that detail. Even in a fuzzy photo every element looks sculpted to perfection. I wish I'd appreciated all that when I was a youngster and a frequent visitor on days when there was nothing else to do. Live and learn.

Pearl: 18th Jan 2015 - 20:26 GMT

I remember mama walking us through Lincoln Terrace Park on Easter in our Sunday best, on our way to St. Matthews R.O.C..I remember stopping to read the bronze plaques at the base of the trees on Eastern Parkway dedicated to WWI veterans, walking to Prospect Park with my best friend and going to the Ancient Egyptian exhibit at the Brooklyn Museum and feeling transported back in time.
Just to sit on the benches on a beautiful spring day after the cold winter , wonderful memories.

chick: 18th Jan 2015 - 21:47 GMT

Pearl ,you probably lived in East Ny. It`s sad but so many of those bronze plaques were being stolen that the city removed whatever remained .I often went to the museum and the ancient Egyptians were my favorites.If you have any photos of that time its easy to post them here.
Where did you go to school.?

Janet: 19th Jan 2015 - 13:39 GMT

WW I was the war to end all wars. I don't know if it was so-called because of the carnage or because so many national boundaries were changed that it was thought long-standing disputes about them would end.

Eddie P: 21st Jan 2015 - 17:50 GMT

I lived at 1375 St. Johns Place between Schenectady & Utica Aves. Graduated from PS 167 in 1957.
50 years later, I was contacted by a classmate I hadn't seen for at least 40 years. Leaving out the boring details, in 2007 about 35 of us from class 8-4, room 408 held a reunion at the Marriott Brooklyn Bridge. Some of us have remained in close contact since, it remains a very rewarding & fulfilling experience. I'm posting 2 pics one is a class trip to Hyde Park, c1956 headed up by Mr. Klorese. he's the one with the moustache noticeable lack of hair. The other was taken in 2007. It's 3 old guys (me in the middle)sitting in the same PS 167 auditorium seats they occupied a half century before. It's not merely nostalgia, it's remembering the events that shaped whoimage 52047

we are today.

Eddie P: 21st Jan 2015 - 18:00 GMT

Shrunk (shrank?) picture as directed & got what you see above, have tried to correct it but can't get the popup window to upload photos, it highlights but nothing opens. Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks, ed

Eddie P: 21st Jan 2015 - 18:10 GMT

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Think(hope) I got it.

chick: 21st Jan 2015 - 18:40 GMT

Thankks Ed, I recognise Harold Nudelman In the top picture. I have one of you and 2 others taken in front of your house ,l will post it. I have a few others I will post. Did you know Fred Demarco? I recently got in touch with him after a40 year absence.

Janet: 21st Jan 2015 - 20:43 GMT

Eddie--Can it be the 167 auditorium is so small? Is the photo being taken from the balcony? I remember the auditorium as being much larger than pictured with a good-sized stage and a baby grand at floor level. Maybe since I was so young and small things just seemed bigger than they actually were. I left 167 for JHS 210 in 1947 or 8 and always regretted it. No doubt there's been major remodeling of 167 interior over the last half-century +plus+.

chick: 21st Jan 2015 - 22:03 GMT

janet is correct this does look much too small to be our auditorium, but ours was 9 years earlier. I don`t recall any balcony, Perhaps in your senior memory you are confusing 167 and 210

larry prusak: 21st Jan 2015 - 22:54 GMT

Hi I am one of those 3 who re-visited the school on our 50th anniversary…and was also really shocked at the tinyness of the auditorium…in my memories it was about 10 times bigger then it really is….btw ...all those semi-classical paintings on the wall-as i remember one was a print of a famous El Greco picture were, not surprisingly, all gone…. Steve S, the other participant tried to play the piano in the style of Ms Drebin but wasn't very successful…..regards to all.. Larry

mario: 21st Jan 2015 - 23:55 GMT

otto... had many friends on that block (park place) stick ball, football on that empty lot...... the 80th was on the corner of grand and park place...went to st. teresa 1954..

Janet: 22nd Jan 2015 - 03:02 GMT

My mistake Chick--I said balcony, but I meant to say stage. (I'm grateful for any memory of two sequential events.)

chick: 22nd Jan 2015 - 03:52 GMT

I could say, "act your age" but you are . HO HO HO

chick: 22nd Jan 2015 - 21:48 GMT

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St. Johns Pl.

Pearl: 22nd Jan 2015 - 22:42 GMT

I graduated from P.S. 189. The front of the school had trees that would bloom every spring with the most gorgeous pink flowers , I think they were Japanese Cherry trees , does anyone know for sure what kind they were ?. In winter we would go ice skating in Prospect Park, it was fun but some of those Speed Skaters were really hazardous to be around if you were just learning.

chick: 22nd Jan 2015 - 23:32 GMT

Thanks editor , the photo above is in front of 1395 St Johns pl. Freddy lived there. In the ppicture ;Eddie & Gene Kowalski, Freddy Demarco,and Bernie Fox With his dog The slittle guy in the center is joey Alvarez.My wife Barbara lived next door,Freddy introduced us and I was best man at his wedding .We recently reconnected after 40 year absence.

chick: 23rd Jan 2015 - 03:31 GMT

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chick: 23rd Jan 2015 - 04:12 GMT

The top photo is of Harold Nudelman Steve Pruzak and another on St. Johns Pl. The arrow in the background points to my poolroom at 1394 St Johns Pl
The second photo shows 2 kids fooling around further down the same block

Peter: 23rd Jan 2015 - 20:35 GMT

i love the classic automobiles in these photos. you definitely dont see anything like that anymore! real american steel!

chick: 23rd Jan 2015 - 22:09 GMT

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I n those days(1953) roof tops were popular hangouts .
This is me on Barbaras roof 1399 St. Johns ,The Utica is to the right and Ronsons drug store is in the distance on the left.I can`t see what`s playing but i went there with Marty Ingals when his name was still Ingerman and saw "THE KILLERS". When we left we walked down St..Johns Pl. with Marty reciting dialogue that he had memorized.we were about 18 or 19 years old.

chick: 23rd Jan 2015 - 22:22 GMT

image 52058 This is the" MATRON " at the Utica movie.White uniform and flashlight , if you acted up she would put you out . I know she was a tough lady ,she was also Barbaras grandma .She liked me and encouraged Barbara and I to get married.that was unusual in those days Barbara is Jewish and I am not.

Janet: 23rd Jan 2015 - 23:06 GMT

Oh days of yore, oh days that are no more. "Grandma" and I had a few spats at the Utica. She always won. Afternoons at the movies were some of my best days of youth--lots of screen adventure, mystery, and laughs (away with the love stuff!)--and an occasional cigaret lit up to show how 'cool' I was. Grandma took care of that in short order! Rest in peace. Nice to have this photo memory.

Underberg: 23rd Jan 2015 - 23:09 GMT

Chic: whats with the photos with the giant white borders? You should crop them down to the actual photo.

chick: 23rd Jan 2015 - 23:15 GMT

underberg , idk ,it only gets that way after uploading and there is no "edit" spot.

Underberg: 23rd Jan 2015 - 23:19 GMT

Well.... obviously, you need to edit/crop it before you upload it.

chick: 23rd Jan 2015 - 23:24 GMT

image 52061Now we move down the block from the movie to 1394 St. Johns . Thats the poolroom that I bought after getting out of the army .We are across from Barbara,Freddy, Bernie ,Leon Rich, Tommy O`malley and many others. Notice the price $1.80 an hour for four players ,I think it`s more than $10.00 now

Underberg: 24th Jan 2015 - 01:01 GMT

Nowadays $10 is worth about what $1.80 was back then. We just had a better economy back then before we wasted most of our GNP on endless wars and bad politics. There is no middle-class anymore. No one could afford to get our of the army and buy a poolroom nowadays. And if you adjust for inflation, the $1.80 you used to pay for an hour of pool back then is more than your average minimum-wage worker makes per hour in today's world.

Guess those were indeed the "good ole days", huh?

chick: 24th Jan 2015 - 15:25 GMT

image 52062 two roofs over from barbara was Richie Rubin,directly across from the Utica. Barbara was the sitter for Richies little sister Terri. Terri grew up and had a son BRAD MELTZER who has the show on the History channel and has had a few books published.Rich ,or Rubino as he is called has always been a little excentric ,in those days we would say crazy, but always good natured.I remember one summer day when the Yentas were all" sitting out"Rich went up to the roof and tossed a life sized doll down, screaming as it fell. You can imagine what the yentas thought of Rich after that.
Well Rich lives on the west coast now, and he sends me many of the pictures that I post here. He says (rightfully) that our area got so bad the onliest way he would return would be in his new car.....pictured. Send some more pix Rich. Janet lived on the next block,maybe she can dig up some photos. Or anyone else ?

chick: 24th Jan 2015 - 17:47 GMT

image 52063tHIS IS MY BARBARA long before we met. She is in the ornate vestibule at 1399 St Johns that so many of these houses had .She always wears clean never know who you might meet.

chick: 24th Jan 2015 - 23:50 GMT

image 52068This is a photo of my Barbara and her friend Ruby who lived upstairs in the same building.there were lots of kids who grew up on that block between the early 40s and 1970.the same could be said for many other areas of Brooklyn.

chick: 25th Jan 2015 - 22:36 GMT

image 52069This is the block and these are the houses where these kids lived and carried on. Those are Barbaras windows on the ground floor ofthe nearest building.Ruby lived just above ,Sheila Wolfe lived there so did Julia Astrella and Rich Gadel. The Zaretskys,Nudelmans ,Rubins and others whose names I don`t recall or from a different generation lived up the street.
this photo is from Richie Rubin

chick: 27th Jan 2015 - 04:18 GMT

Hey, I just got a call from Teresa Devaney .She lived at 1322 Sterling Pl. and graduated St. Matthews in 1947. She is well and packing up to spend the winter in Florida. Anyone else out there from St. matts?

Janet: 27th Jan 2015 - 21:35 GMT

A side comment. Did you know that there's a bridge that links Manhattan, Bronx, Queens? I used to know it as the Triborough; now its known as the RFK Bridge. Last month I happened to see a small sign at LaGuardia: "the Triborough Bridge is now the RFK . . ." How many New Yorkers do you suppose haven't the foggiest who that is? Upside--easier to spell.

Eddie P: 30th Jan 2015 - 01:26 GMT

Hi Janet, yes! we were all somewhat astounded by the incredible shrinking auditorium. I do have a pic of the stage & as soon as I can find it, I'll post it. The first thing that struck me when entering 167 after 50 years was the beautiful curved, marble staircases on either side of the lobby. Looking into the "Cold Lunch Room" the dank basement room that always smelled like a mixture of wet clothing & tomato soup, the first memory that came to my mind was when we were lined up in that room getting our polio shots. It was soon after Dr. Salk's vaccine was developed & saved many of us, & future generations from that horrible disease.image 52089

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Eddie P: 30th Jan 2015 - 01:33 GMT

Hi Again,
Somebody mentioned a knish man.
Some of the PS 167 survivors at Carmine's NYC in 2014.
Eddie P in the 167 schoolyard with the intersection of Lincoln Place
& Schenectady Avenue behind me.
Don't know why these photos posted twice. Apologies!!

Eddie P: 30th Jan 2015 - 01:34 GMT

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chick: 30th Jan 2015 - 04:16 GMT

wow ,Thanks Ed I recognised this location immediately .There were two exits onto Lincoln place from the schoolyard this is the exit closer to Schnectady Av, Inside the school there were no lunch rooms in the 40s when l attended they were the girls gym and the boys gym. Could you tag the people at Carmines? We had fellows who could bend the bars of that fence wide enough to put a "prisoners" head between them and then close them on his neck. Sometimes the poor kid would be there for hours before being released.

chick: 30th Jan 2015 - 16:12 GMT

I don`t recognise the background of the knish pictures ,do you?

Eddie P: Have no idea where the picture was taken.

Harry E.: 30th Jan 2015 - 21:31 GMT

Satu Mare, which means Saint Mary, is a town in Hungary. There a Hasidic group was first started. Today, they are known as the Satmar Hasidim. Could you imagine? The Saint Mary Hasidim! Now many of them live in Williamsburg and Borough Park and also in Jerusalem. A Satmar girl tells her story in her book titled So Strange My Path. The main Hasidic rivals of Satmar are the Lubavitchers, a.k.a. Chabad, whose headquarters are at 770 Eastern Parkway, in Crown Heights. One way they differ is that the Satmars are very anti-Zionist & the Lubavitchers are pro-Israel. Now the Satmars sometimes wear fur hats & high socks, of the sort once worn in colonial America, while the Lubavitchers tend to dress in a more modern manner. Now many Satmars live in Jerusalem & refuse to serve in the Israeli Army, as the Lubavitchers do. Despite that, the Israeli government tolerates the Satmars & lets them do what they want, as the government believes they help Judaism to survive & thrive.

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