11 Stanley Place, Kinning Park

kobe: 9th May 2005 - 18:41 GMT

this is my first citynoise post, by the way. i got bored of just commenting. im glad to see that i actually posted it and dont have to do any editing on!

kobe: 9th May 2005 - 18:47 GMT

bloody hell. i said that too soon... just remembered that i wanted to include this map, for those familiar with the area, so here it is:

Peter: 9th May 2005 - 19:17 GMT

nice series of photos. is it always as drab and rainy there as it looks?

elaine: 9th May 2005 - 19:26 GMT

one reason why i left... and why i make such a crap visitor when i go back - as i am a champion whiner. however, foreign peeps, do not think that the UK is all like that with it's public housing, because it very very very isn't

fuzzytank: 10th May 2005 - 05:12 GMT

actually for public housing that looks pretty nice, so is that considered a clean lil' piece of the projects or just a regular bit?

Jamie: 10th May 2005 - 08:08 GMT

they look pretty swanky as far as council flats go. they totally are not like that round here. Utilitarian 60/70s box like structures devoid of character or soul is what you tend to find down here. This looks like a nice area. Your photos have given me a new take on Glasgow, though i'm sure there are equally grim high-rises to be found in Govan.

elaine: 10th May 2005 - 09:28 GMT

plenty minging flats in glasgow, and also edinburgh, some really horrible estates (schemes). your schemie is not like your pikey or your chav, having been isolated away from any kind of commerce except a row of crap shops, catalogue shopping and drug dealers for decades, pale faced and malnutritioned for generations. the ducking and diving londoner would be horrified to witness the way of 'life' there. however, there are better places, and more integrated locations, where people can live good lives and have access to a wider culture (and i don't mean opera) and, frinstance my own childhood on the outskirts of edinburgh was kind of 'clean' - i played outdoors a lot, there were woods and rivers and stuff

Martin: 20th Jul 2005 - 16:27 GMT

Nice flats Kobe, I particularly like the green chaute in the garden, least theres no Buckie bottles in shot....

Peter: 20th Jul 2005 - 16:33 GMT

where did kobe go?

also: whats a "buckie bottle"?

elaine: 20th Jul 2005 - 16:36 GMT

my guess it is buckfast wine, known for it's medicinal qualities... especially by the drinking fraternity

barry: 5th Oct 2005 - 20:50 GMT

I would like to go see scotland some day is there any good places to go elaine?I seen it on t.v an it looked pretty nice!

elaine: 5th Oct 2005 - 21:07 GMT

yeah, most of it is pretty with the possible exception of the road between glasgow and edinburgh, but it is good for driving and walking and the countryside is good and the cities are variable, edinburgh is pretty stunning. it depends what you want. most people are kind of friendly, and there is a lot of social drinking and music and things

Steve: 25th Oct 2005 - 14:39 GMT

Ilived in good old KP in the later part of the 60's/early 70's what a brilliant time I had then, the last time I visited KP was Aug 05, I kept losing my way and found myself running into dead end streets,the m8 has a lot to answer for! I do not care what anyone says its was (and still is) a great place.

Steve: 25th Oct 2005 - 14:45 GMT

Forgot to mention that I lived in Seaward St. (opposite the bondie) not only has that part of the street gone so, at least it seems, has everyone who lived at the top end of Seaward Street.

Jamie: 9th Nov 2005 - 11:37 GMT

ask someone to build you a structure like this thses days, with turreted bits and roundy corners and fancy bits on. Their answer will invariably be "why?"

Why not build it sqaure - straight - standardized. Much better. I think not. Ask a builder to construct something which is not square or straight or easily fashioned from standarized building materials, and note the air which he instinctively sucks through his teeth. Before he asks you to fuck off. Not to say that the skills have vanished, but the artistry of construction is not what it was. I feel i should document the architecture of my town.

elaine: 9th Nov 2005 - 11:58 GMT

go on then. handy hint - for the interesting twiddly bits and maybe even some sculptures you gotta look up

Peter: 9th Nov 2005 - 14:16 GMT

yeah jamie, go for it.

i should make more photos of the architecture around my place, too. some of it is very oddly stylized.

will: 5th Jan 2006 - 20:04 GMT

nice - i love glasgow and its tenements. yes the weather is usually that drab but the people more than make up for it for the most part. with govan apparently due for a revamp who knows what this bit of town will look like in a few years time

Isabella: 21st Jan 2006 - 17:30 GMT

as someone who moved away from the Govan area last year I would just like to say that I miss the Govan area and its people, I miss its freindliness and its culture, yes I said culture for Elaines benefit (10th may 2005) the lady who writes about the druggies and the malnutritioned all I can say is she obviously has never visited it. I love it when I go back, I love the people , not like londononers who dare not look you in the eye, in case you smile at them (or maybe they know I am from Govan and think I may mug them, Elaines version of govanites, not mine) Like I said before I miss Govan but I also miss Glasgow and I will go back just as soon as I can afford the house prices and that is Govan too

Malcolm April 28 Montreal: 28th Apr 2006 - 11:53 GMT

I was born in 1928 at 4 Tower St.(between Lambhill St, and Sussex St.)I Moved to Paisley Rd. W.(opposite Blackburn St.)in 1935.In '39 moved to Aros Dr. Mosspark.I revisit Glasgow about every second year. When I last visited Tower St.some years ago the tenements were gone,replaced by lovely bungalows with neat gardens. Where I was born is now about50ft up in the air.I bet the kids there don't have the fun and excitement we had as kids.Love to hear from anyone from there and then,if any still around

shercat: 16th May 2006 - 00:08 GMT

actually this is my house in Stanley Street and it does NOT look quite like this. Did you doctor the photo? I dont know who the hell you think you are (apart from a total idiot) but I want this removed you did not have my permission to publish this photo of my house

jeeff: 16th May 2006 - 01:54 GMT

doctor the photo? why would anyone doctor a photo of a random flat? better get the tinfoil hat on quick.

Jamie: 16th May 2006 - 08:24 GMT

I'm certainly no lawyer, but as i understand it, there is no law in the uk about taking photos of peoples houses. Aerial photography companies for examples endlessly fly over our homes taking photos in the hope that we'll buy them and put them on our mantlepiece. Google Maps, in theory is currently publishing photos of ALL our houses, and their are countless millions of photographs of buildings to be found on the world wide web with just a simple search on goggle images.

I failt to see your point to be honest

elaine: 16th May 2006 - 08:41 GMT

you can take photos of anything you like except minors. or miners, during the days of the strikes, but that's just because the police don't like you doing stuff they don't like you doing - that seems to be a 'law'

EvilGentleman: 16th May 2006 - 18:27 GMT

First off, I am a visitor here, not an admin or a law expert, so do not consider anything I say in this comment to be binding on anyone. One part of my brain thinks that although it may not be required by law to heed such requests, it might be a kind courtesy to respect a homeowner if the home in question is the central focus of the article, and the way the article is posted is clearly a security issue. But they would have to find some way to prove full ownership of the property, such as sending a notarized copy of the deed, as well as proof that they are actually the person listed on the deed as the owner, to the nearest admin, in this case Jamie, along with an actual letter stating what is requested and why.

The other side of my brain says that if it is not required by law to listen to such requests, then they should be ignored. Otherwise, it sets a precedent that opens a door to a bunch of potential problems. There are thousands of homes in the pictures on this website, as there are in many other websites as well. Obviously, people do not ask for permission of the owner of every property in the background before taking a picture of say, a street scene. Many pictures on here are also of anonymous people. To remove something because someone does not want it posted weakens the freedom of photographers the world over. This is also a threat to the freedom of the internet itself. One only has to look at Google's Chinese website to see how self-censorship is often viewed as controversial and offensive.

In the end, I would say that the request should be ignored, not because of insensitivity or legal pressure, but because shercat has posted anonymously and rudely. You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. Rudeness will get you nowhere fast.

But hey, I'm not an admin or anything, so don't worry what I say, shercat. I'm just a little bug on the wall. (ok, ok, maybe more like a goliath beetle, but I hope to lose weight)

brian: 20th May 2006 - 13:23 GMT

that paints no picture of govan elder park streets not like tht its all boarded up You must have took pikes of the few nice streets in govan

GUS BRENNAN: 5th Jun 2006 - 20:22 GMT

MY SISTER USED TO LIVE IN STANLY STREET AS IT WAS CALLED THEN IN THE FIFTIES, I WENT TO SCHOOL IN SCOTLAND STREET, AND HAD TO GO TO MY SISTERS HOUSE FOR MY DINNER IT WAS A GREAT AREA BEFORE THE SLASHED THE MOTORWAY THROUGH IT, BUT, THATS PROGRESS I SUPPOSE!!!

shuggy: 13th Jul 2006 - 00:35 GMT

I stay just outside glasgow(barrhead)and if you are looking for somewhere to go in scotland i can safely tell you don't come to glasgow to many junkies n neds

Irene Maltman: 15th Nov 2006 - 22:12 GMT

Looking at those photos makes me long for home !

stew: 15th Jan 2007 - 18:44 GMT

left glasgow in 1960 from 138 roland st. maryhill. I've been told that there is nothing left that I would recognize.

mr tthomas mcgowan 2/2/2007: 2nd Feb 2007 - 14:54 GMT

hi tommy here this brings back memories to me i was born in 20 sussex street.4up the pen [1945 ]my pals in the close was ian mc ewan billy logan,bobby park next close john quinn, we all went to st margaret school stanley street,the headie was mr downie,the wee shop next to school wisgreat for candy balls. sour plums. fizzy drinksthatwis great,we moved to arden 1956 when a got married got a house in tower st.no 20 willies dairy close my pal poggy boyle lived in simmsons paper shop we close.we drank in scobbies pub @sams bar the mckays bar sussex st.when a boy a worked in ritchies stables feeding the horsesthe gaffer was charlie quigley,next door was mr mair undertackersthat was a dead end close,haha remember uncle bobs the pawnthe brown paper the brown string every body new were you were in thees daysremember yaehid ta ,ask a neubor for a penny fir the gas meterfir yir das tea.is there eny body reading this please get back tome pleaselooking for photos of thi street sussex street, @tower st,tommags59@aol.comthanks for the memories god bless all tommy

john: 10th Feb 2007 - 19:15 GMT

i was born in clark street (1935) just off tower we could look into wullies dairy from our window i went to lambhill street school just round the corner clark st. tower st. sussex st. all gone when i went thereto look around i could almost hear the old days kids playing peeva, rounders, kick the can,girls with their skipping ropes lots of happy memories 9at least old people were not getting mugged whats happened to our country?

david kean: 1st Mar 2007 - 16:51 GMT

i was born in kinning park in 1951 and lived at 5 lambhill st for 8 years
my dad had a tv repair shop called BURNS
does anyone remember it or have any pics of that area?

david kean: 2nd Mar 2007 - 13:21 GMT

in lambhill st there was a chip shop opposite my dad's shop and there was a canine beauticians... i remember the factory where they made creamola foam just up from the subway station.

david kean: 5th Mar 2007 - 12:29 GMT

mckays bar was at the corner of paisley rd west and lambhill st

wee davie: 6th May 2007 - 20:13 GMT

I was born at 40 Cornwall St. in 1948. I remember well the Kinning Park tube station. It dad a remarkable smell that I loved... fresh, clean. My grampa told me the smell came from a russian tar used to coat the tunnels. Does it smell the same?

david kean: 10th May 2007 - 15:32 GMT

does anyone have any pictures of lambhill st from the 50s and 60s?

kobie: 17th May 2007 - 15:41 GMT

well a lot of these tenements probably arent even housing association or council owned anymore cos a lot of the people who live in these better quality tenements usually buy them then sell them and move on.usually some landlord will buy them and rent them to students or young couples so these aint your typical council houses in glasgow. to get a flat like one of them in glasgow you have to wait 20yrs on a waiting list,thats the reality of it.so for 20yrs you have to rot in some dump basically.and those streets photographed are some of the nicer,improved streets in govan but most of the area is a dive these days to be fair.

mr tthomas mcgowan 2/2/2007: 1st Jun 2007 - 18:40 GMT

hi tommy mc gowan what you said about sussex streetvery good indeed you must have a great momery about kinning park it is good was lovely to look at your story please publish this great storythanks your pal ian mc ewan 20 sussex street the good old days god bless all

John McCreadie: 15th Jun 2007 - 14:29 GMT

What was the name of the school in Cornwall Street. Has anyone got a photograph of it, hope so.

Seamus Mc Clean: 16th Oct 2007 - 22:07 GMT

Just learned my grandparents were married in St Margarets RC Church, Stanley Street. Does anyone know if the Church is still standing?

Seamus Mc Clean: 14th Nov 2007 - 11:42 GMT

Thanks for the info on St Margarets. David, I would like a photo if you have one please. Can you scan and email to mccleanseamus@hotmail.cm? many thanks. Visited Stanley Street last weekend. My Grandmother was born in Mair St and my grandfather in Tower Street.

thomas mc gowan to david kean: 6th Dec 2007 - 21:06 GMT

hi david yes imyself new yir family well the shop was called burns every sat /morn to fill acumalater for wirlessthey were the days david, yes would you please send me copy of the photos of the chapel our ladys @st margarets stanley street my greatgran @granda were married in this chapel also my grand pearents my mum @dad imyself wife margaretplease send two copies please tommags59@aol.com urgent god bless allthanking you david

thomas mc gowan to david kean: 6th Dec 2007 - 21:26 GMT

yes david tommy mcgowan here lived in sussex street 20 the pen new your mum#' dad well please send me a copy of st margaret chapel imself got married to margaret fisher in this chapel please send, scan and email it to me tommags59@aol.comgod bless, tommy mcgowan urgent

thomas mc gowan to david kean: 28th Dec 2007 - 17:39 GMT

hi david tommy mcgowan here , still waiting for photos of you please send urgent thanks tommy

Georgie Murphy (nee Cadger): 6th Jan 2008 - 20:32 GMT

RE- school in Cornwall St. It was Lambhill st. high school. I lived at 11 Mclellan Street and Lambhill school was the one I attended.

Sheila Cairns: 27th Jan 2008 - 15:05 GMT

My Grandfather was born in Anderson Street ( now no longer there) does anyone know which school he would have gone to? The family later moved to 45 Lambhill Street. Family name Crawford. Would appreciate any sort of info.email sheil50@hotmail.com

Jan Miller : 23rd Mar 2008 - 17:00 GMT

My gg grandfather James Whyte lived 89 Stanley St Kinning Park.was a wine-spirt Merchant- thanks for putting a picture of the Stanley st on the web.

Mary Graham: 25th Mar 2008 - 16:07 GMT

Loved the photos of Stanley Street. My late mother stayed in 151. Her name was Mary Sandilands.

Brian Mackay: 30th Mar 2008 - 15:06 GMT

My Grandfather Douglas Mackay, was born in 124 Houston Street in 1903. His father, Charles Mackay, previously lived at 234 Watt St in 1900 when he married. My grandfather emigrated to Philadelphia in the US when he was 23, in 1926.

william mc latchie : 11th Apr 2008 - 21:38 GMT

-i lived 240 seaward street went kinning park school lambhill sreet

James Mc Beth: 8th May 2008 - 16:10 GMT

I found this page very intersting as I have been doing some family research and have a lot of info relating to Kinning Park. Does the Mc Beth name ring a bell to anyone. Names include Andrew, Marjory Ann, Neil, William. Here's hoping.

Mike McDonald: 21st May 2008 - 04:08 GMT

for William McLatchie, i was born 200 seaward st,went to Scotland St School, moved to pollock 1950,came backand married girl from Scotland St

Irene Ferguson Maltman: 27th May 2008 - 20:51 GMT

I was born in Govan (Helen's St.) in 1940. Would love to find the Calderheads who lived upstairs also Margaret Gray. I went to Govan High. Also,I was a member of the Celtic Ballet from 1955 to 1957.Anyone out there from the company please contact me at ireneferguson@yahoo.com. Thanks for the site. Irene

Charlie Gouldie: 10th Jun 2008 - 08:53 GMT

I was born in Weir St 1960 and went to St Margarets, I still stay in Plantation next to the new Squinty Bridge. I still go round to the Stanley Bar where a lot of old school chums meet and have a laugh. Govan is in for a big regeneration project in the near future. The Southern Gen hosp is getting a new campus built, money is being poured into Govan its a drip at the moment but the flood gates are soon to be opened so we are told. The times they are a changing, jobs are being generated. Govan is in a state of flux. Emigrants are being housed there, it is becoming more and more Cosmopolitan by the week. Glasgow what a city (WHAWS like us).

linda: 11th Jul 2008 - 23:59 GMT

to Irene maltman,Hi is the calderheads your talking about is it pat and john or betty who was margaret gray just a thought I know calderheads

john morrow: 31st Jul 2008 - 13:39 GMT

great i stayed in vermont street from 1940 -53 i never went back but i have some wonderful memories your pics are great

olive: 1st Aug 2008 - 11:56 GMT

just read all the comments, my god it really takes you back! I was born
and lived a2 5 lambhill street above mckays pub, went to st.margarets primary school. Fond memories!

geraldine: 22nd Aug 2008 - 21:54 GMT

just been reading all the comments with a tear in ma eye. Stayed in housten street 1948 went to st. margarets school with my brother bobby (Diack) mr downie h/master. Fr Rawlings was the priest. Living in england now, but my heart is still in scotland. the pics are great and bring back a lot of memories.

David: 18th Sep 2008 - 18:58 GMT

Past comments indicate Tower St. now mostly new developments. My mother in law was born at 26 Tower St in 1904. Does anyone know if that building is still there? We live in Chicago and plan on visiting Kinning Park and would like to know what to expect

tommy mc gowan: 30th Sep 2008 - 13:42 GMT

hi david, tommy mc gowan here ,my sister marion kelton lived in 26 tower st.k/p 3up left etta mcglory lived in bottom groud floor house imyself lived in 28 tower st, 2up left when i got married what was your mother in laws name?please get back soon tommags59@aol.com ps tower st. is all new houses

Irene Maltman: 28th Nov 2008 - 02:19 GMT

Hi Linda, I havent been on this site for ages, so much going on here.... I would love to talk to the Calderheads.John and Betty were my friends. Margaret Grey lived in the same building. Thank you for responding. I live in San Diego California now. I hope to visit Govan next year. You can contact me at fergiephoto@yahoo.com.

Would love to hear from someone over there..... Irene

Irene Maltman: 3rd Jan 2009 - 19:29 GMT

I would love to here from someone over there who knew me or my family. The Maltmans lived by Govan Cross (the nice building with the high backs). They later moved to Uist street. I was born on Helens street, went to Harmony Row School. Is it still there? After 3 years in California we returned to Glasgow where I eventually attended Govan High and then The Celtic Ballet. Anyone know Irene Mc Millan? She was my best friend at Govan High . Her dad died , she found his body in the kitchen where they lived, he had killed himself. It was such a hard time for her. My God is this too morbid? Would love to find her.... Irene