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With the new year already creeping upon us, why not have a squint of some historic images of Times Square along with a few pix I took back in 2002?
In the 1890s the Theater District had been creeping its way uptown...
...and the Pabst Brewing Company hoped to establish a major presence in the town's newest hot spot.
In 1899 the Pabst Hotel was opened a block south of what was then known as Longacre Square.
The Pabst offered thirsty patrons a basement 'Rathskeller'...
...along with a beer garden that extended over 42nd street.
There were even a few rooms to sleep off an evening's entertainment.
The Pabst only lasted a few years before construction of the subway took out their Rathskeller - though the hotel was allowed to stay.
The New York Times - looking for a 'crusade' - sued the Pabst over its beer garden portico and eventually got a judge to order its removal. With the manager taking a job at another hotel, the building was sold to the Times for their new project.
Longacre Square was renamed for the newspaper...
...and the Times used their building as the focal point of public gatherings - like this relay of World Series scores.
The New York Times occupied the building for a mere decade before moving into a building on 43rd Street.
In the mid-60s the Times Tower was sold to Allied Chemical, stripped to its skeleton and its Italianate facade replaced...
To think it could've been worse - as this 1980s proposal shows.
For the first few years after its 1960s rebuilding, One Times Square had almost nothing in the way of signage.
Allied Chemical did retain the legendary news ticker.
Number One Times Square 2002...
...there's still a building under all those signs...
...but there are no tenants above the second storey.
Looking north from the Times Tower sometime in the 1920s. All six buildings - l to r Rivoli Theater, Astor Hotel, Studebaker Bldg (behind the Macy's sign), Loews State Bldg, Criterion Theater, Claridge Hotel - in this picture have been replaced.
In the 1930s the old Criterion Theater was either gutted or demolished to house the International Casino, a nightclub that got around a state liquor law limiting an establishment to one stand-up bar by winding theirs around the stairs to an upper storey.
In the 1940s the Miami Beach Deco exterior had been flensed from the old carcass.
Bond Clothes occupied much of the building sharing it with a cinema and various other businesses.
By the time of my visit it was Toys "R" Us's New York flagship. Why this hasn't been replaced with a skyscraper by now is a complete mystery to me.
More info on the building here -> streetsyoucrossed.blogspot.com/2005/11/bow-ties-that-bond.html
In 1972 Winston Cigarettes returned the famous 'smoking man' signs...
...that had been put up by Camel cigarettes in the '40s.
The Camel's smoker had lasted to well into the 1960s
Times Square in the 1970s.
42nd Street in the 1970s.
And what is 1970s Times Square without its bounty of pr0n? Do you suppose the Jack Ruby estate licensed the Carousel Club name?
The '70s was all about disco - The Roseland Ballroom was no exception.
Times Square in the 80s was a pale shadow of itself...
...and would be completely made over in the 90s...
...and was something other than else by the time I visited in 2002.
Silent actress and Ziegfeld Follies girl Olive Thomas is said to haunt the New Amsterdam.
The old McGraw Hill building at 330 West 42nd Street stands watch over a changed milleu.
The building from NewsRadio about to be buried by new construction.
Number 4 Times Square and the shrouded Remington Typewriter Building.
Number 4 Times Square and the animated NASDAQ sign.
The ABC News building and its news zipper - its building had replaced the Claridge sometime in the late-60s/early-70s.
Sweeping around the square now...
Sixy MTV fans await the next Carson Daly taping.
One of the few old-timers left...
...is the Paramount Building.
Our last look is from a 2006 trip.
For another great photo-essay on Times Square be sure to visit... www.lileks.com/NYC/timessquare/index.html
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joey: 1st Jan 2010 - 01:49 GMT
i was lucky enough to see times sq when the man was blowing smoke rings
Robert: 2nd Jan 2010 - 15:09 GMT
Thanks again Franny for your superb contributions.
nathan brown: 9th Jan 2010 - 07:12 GMT
a real shame they knocked all these grand treasures down .they say its progress i say its criminal.im from australia and in sydney they destroyed heaps of old buildings during the 1960s and 1970s a real shame i say .
DAVID: 12th Jan 2010 - 05:00 GMT
It's criminal what our so-called leaders have done by tearing down the old Helen Hayes Theater (now the dumpy Marriott Hotel) and several others. A perfect example would be the grand European Penn Station that is now Madison Sq. Garden. Makes me want to vomit. The archeticts of those old buildings understood building were to give something back to the city. Today, the new Times Building is best described as a 'dead' zone. An entire block of steel. BORING! DULL! NO CHARACTER! Why didnt they take it to Queens or Bklyn where there's space instead of taking up a whole block leaving residents with NOTHING but a cold, empty feelings. Short sighted politicians call this progress.....several old buildings are scheduled to be torn down. Few things are grand any more in this town. It's only a memory.
Franny Wentzel: 12th Jan 2010 - 14:43 GMT
Makes you want to dig up the bones of Robert Moses and rattle 'em around so he knows no peace in death for what he and his kind have done to cities.
Mike: 13th May 2010 - 04:23 GMT
What Guilliani did to the city especially 42nd and TS was nothing but pious and ruthless, stepping on peoples civil liberties along the way. The area now has no character, it's nothing more then a pretentious corporate theme park. I'll take the red lights over what's there now anyday, at least there was something human to that.
Jaime: 14th Sep 2010 - 03:58 GMT
Here is another view of the Winston sign: www.flickr.com/photos/jaimemartorano/4988251389/
Bunny Music: 31st Dec 2010 - 16:06 GMT
I used to party at 1 Times Square in a club called Nirvana. It was on the 14th and 16th floors and we watched the ball drop past the windows from the inside. Those were the days oh boy!
Babette: 1st Jan 2011 - 20:39 GMT
I remember the old Times Square. The buildings were there but there was so much prostitution, pimps, and gangs hanging around that it made it dangerous to stay out in the evening. They should have left the old buildings alone as now that it's safe there is no old buildings to look at. The leaders should be punished for their short range thinking.
V: 2nd Jan 2011 - 13:18 GMT
This is a great example of how we should be constantly taking photos in NYC. Such a rapidly changing city...
Ricky: 9th Aug 2012 - 16:44 GMT
I remember the old time square. The years was 1975.I was 18 years old.I when to old time square to go the movie.You pay $3.00 Dollars to the movie .you get 5 Movies for $3.00 Dollars.I remeber i when to club.I was 23 years old.I When to Bond and Roseland to the club.But saw old pictures old time square.people who used Live call good old day. Now time change.New time square.but Leaders who change time square they made money. you think learders help us no. they will change you community. They will out poor people home and Rich live. sing out. August 9 2012.
Ozzy: 19th Sep 2012 - 04:18 GMT
Well I was just there and I think it is the coolest place on earth...full of lights and life...let go the past and embrace the new
Raquel : 17th Dec 2012 - 15:59 GMT
Does anyone remember a pimp name ricky pretty ricky from 1970 and eighty
3 nads: 24th Dec 2012 - 23:11 GMT
At first they were going to restore the Remington building but 9/11 happened and for some reason they just decided to tear down that beautiful, narrow building for....... the sky window monstrosity that is the Bank of America tower. I hate seeing old intricate buildings from the 20s and older being torn down for plastic shits. I don't mind plastic but it's over rated and used for cost-cutting effectiveness in floor design makes any city looks like toys.
Jason C.: 15th Jan 2016 - 22:39 GMT
Any one take any pictures of the Hotel Diplomat on 43rd street?
Any one have pictures of that building email me @ firstname.lastname@example.org
Franny Wentzel: 16th Jan 2016 - 08:25 GMT
A quick Googling will bring you this Flickr album...
And here are some pix of the Diplomat...
Pictures of the ballroom - KISS played there in the '70s
The Diplomat's final days as an SRO before demolition..
Here is a NY Times article detailing its demolition...
...apparently it made more economic sense to pull down a 13 storey building and replace it with a one storey 'taxpayer'.
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